Vitali Klitschko... Overwhelming Evidence..

[jimmy1569]

Good analogy.

In other words, Vitali = the Shaq of Boxing.

Kobe Bryant may be a more prolific scorer, with more athletic ability. But what good is it when Shaq can achieve the same thing (scoring 2 points) with half the effort, and be the most dominant player on the court, when he was at his prime.

In other words, you can do the shuffle and dance around the ring, wasting energy to keep your opponent off you. Meanwhile the big fella expends half the energy and produces the same results, I.E. dominating all of the rounds, and producing TKO stoppages.

Yep... just think of Vitali dunking because he can by throwing that left jab right in your face & the opponent can't block it no matter what tactic they TRY unless they abandon OFFENSE outright & just play D like Byrd & Johnson did.

In the end Kobe pretty much scored at the same rate as Shaq for there entire careers but shaq was more efficient in getting them even though he wasn't getting them from the stripe.

[Tiozzo]

I ducked it because i had bigger fish to fry than the ole pre****table (what's his best win?) How's this>>>> his best win was taken awy from him by corrupt boxing rules & ringside dr on the payroll>>> kapish!

you haven't been asked what his best loss is

Larry asked what's his best factual win

the question is predictable because it is relevant and obvious when talking about Vitali

you say he's the best ever, yet you don't even dare to name his best win

[Tiozzo]

I do it because he's unfarly NOT judged as the most dominant by the masses (media & haters alike) when every logical circumstantial evidence is in his favor alone. Trust me the 44 fighters who've faced him all Know what i'm talking about... one more record ONLY heavyweight champion in boxing history never to have fought the same fighter twice.... this is no coincidence & if that's NOT damning evidence.. i don't know what is...all 44 talked before the bout about what there strategy was going to be & all 44 abandoned there strategy at the first sign of a punch coming there way.. Adamek is now #45 talking about how he's going to tire Vitali by running circles around him.. what he doesn't realize is he's going to get tired trying to keep his feet afloat after he starts running away from Vitali after he tastes.. you guessed it>>> the first punch.. he'll tire his own self out & that's when Vitali will get him out of there.

let's make this clear : Vitali Klitscko doesn't care you work hard to save his rep on the net

he would probably laugh at you for taking the internet so serious

[Grinderman]

You NEVER say anything positive about the person who kicked the living crap out of you & took away your livelihood.. up until he fought Vitali... Lennox had this innate arrogance like no one could step to him.. he never in his entire life envisioned someone being clearly better & tougher than him.. beating him to the punch... this is a shock to the system.. You could see it in the opening rd where Lennox CLEARLY thought he was dealing with a Michael Grant or Golota. He was disrespecting Klitshko.. thought he was heartless.. boy did he find out how wrong he was.. it took him nealy getting ktfo in the first 5 minutes of the bout to realize who he was in there & quickly change tactics.. he knew he either had to go for broke & go toe to toe with him or get ktfo & picked apart if he was passive.. he had no choice & he lucked out with a cut moments after he was staggered & getting pummeled in the previous rd.

Lennox hates to think about Vitali because it reminds him of being booed out of the Staples Center in the last fight of his career when the crowd sided with Vitali. Painful memory.

[jimmy1569]

let's make this clear : Vitali Klitscko doesn't care you work hard to save his rep on the net

he would probably laugh at you for taking the internet so serious

Don't worry about what Vitali thinks of me... it's what I think of Vitali that should be your main focus.... you obviously do care since you're responding with these lame rebuttals.

[joe strong]

lets see...the two best opponents he faced(byrd & lewis)he is 0-2...big deal he was ahead on the cars in the 6th. fights are 12 rds & soon his eye is shut & he would not see the right coming.if he didnt get hit so often his face wouldnt have looked like that...if he doesnt get cut who knows? still lewis landed less but did a heck of a lot more damage...too bad,so sad...didnt that fight happen 8 years ago...if we are still talking about that fight it just proves how insignifigant his accomplishments you listed above are...his opposition is ok at best.props to the arreola,peter & briggs wins but sosnowski,gomez & kingpin wins are jokes.adamek is the best HW he has faced since the lewis fight.in all his fights adamek will be the 3rd best guy hes faced...

[jimmy1569]

you haven't been asked what his best loss is

Larry asked what's his best factual win

the question is predictable because it is relevant and obvious when talking about Vitali

you say he's the best ever, yet you don't even dare to name his best win

Why would i want to list his best win when EACH & EVERY win of his gets lambasted... 42 wins.. to me they're all quality wins.. since all but 3 of them weren't Ko's.. as for who he has & hasn't beaten.. i'll leave that to the haters such as yourself to decipher.. all i'll say is WHOMEVER you think he hasn't beaten in his career.. stick him in the ring with Vitali in there prime & any version of Vitali manufactures a W over them if he's not hindered by injuries or cuts... he's 42-0 when that scenario takes place.. so i'll go with the odds & ofcourse the intangibles & advantages in strength.. size combined with his skills on offense & defense. Vitali would be the favorite against any fighter that's ever lived & rightfully so as he;s the most dominant fighter ever & the best fighter ever at his size.. the fact that's it's at the biggest size you can get ensures he's got the advantage over everyone.

[Enzo Mc is SHIT]

FACTS about Vitali Klitschko:

- WBC heavyweight champion of the world

- All Time Great and Hall Of Famer

- Has never truly lost

- There is no blueprint to beat him

- He is unbeatable

- Has dominated every opponent he has ever faced

- Statistically, he is the most dominant fighter of all time

- Has never been behind on the scorecards at the end of a fight

- Has never been knocked down

- He is the most intimidating HW of all time

- Greatest heavyweight champ KO% of all time

- Only man ever to be world heavyweight champ in boxing and kickboxing

It's a shame that the 4 year layoff robbed him of a stronger resume. He was WBC and RING undisputed HW Champ when he retired in 2004. We never got to see his true prime. If Vitali had stayed healthy, he would've dominated the HW division from 2005-2008 and his resume would've been on par with Wladimir's great resume.

Vitali is 40 years old now. He came back after the 4 year layoff and is still dominating the HW division. He hasn't lost a single round in his comeback.

Vitali beats any HW from any era.

Next Victim: Polish Warrior Tomasz Adamek

You really don't understand what a "fact" is, do you?

[jimmy1569]

lets see...the two best opponents he faced(byrd & lewis)he is 0-2...big deal he was ahead on the cars in the 6th. fights are 12 rds & soon his eye is shut & he would not see the right coming.if he didnt get hit so often his face wouldnt have looked like that...if he doesnt get cut who knows? still lewis landed less but did a heck of a lot more damage...too bad,so sad...didnt that fight happen 8 years ago...if we are still talking about that fight it just proves how insignifigant his accomplishments you listed above are...his opposition is ok at best.props to the arreola,peter & briggs wins but sosnowski,gomez & kingpin wins are jokes.adamek is the best HW he has faced since the lewis fight.in all his fights adamek will be the 3rd best guy hes faced...

So Adamek is automatically catapulted to the 3rd best fighter he's fought based on his accomplishments at weights below 200 lbs.. well we'll see. Combine both the Byrd & Lewis fights & Vitali gets an oldschool unanimous 15 rd decision winning 12 of the rds on all the judges scorecards... that's a complete fight to me. the sooner you guys admit he lost on freak occurences that happened during fights he was dominating the more real you will have kept it. It says 2 l's on his record but that's where it ends... it counts in the record books.. that'll never change but he's the ONLY fighter to ever have his lone losses be of such extreme magnitude where he was getting the better of both of the fighters he lost to... You can spin that anyway you like...


but THE FACT HE HAS NEVER LOST IN ANY OTHER MANNER should lend credence that NO INJURIES equal a definite W on his record... these are not excuses... these are facts.. if there was any other evidence of him being or coming even close to even losing in any other fashion... then those losses will hold as much as water as you state & it'd be foolish of me to think he would;ve won 100% without suffering those unfortunate physical injuries to his eye & to his shoulder... take away someone's shoulder or take awy someone's eye or him being able to se properly from that eye... your performance will suffer GREATLY.....

I ASK all the haters how was his performance when there were no injuries or cuts to diminish him? That's right his performance is 100%... wasn't 95%.. wasn't 85%... it was perfect domination & really we're only talking 4 or 5 rds max where he was truly hindered in both fights & not fighting with 100% health & guess what happened in those 5 rds with this handicap... he broke even.. so that is further proof.. you all think he was losing before the fights were called off & he was saved... no he was breaking even... it took him being handicapped to level the playing field.. so keep on fabricating & trying to convince me of his 2 losses as normal & legit losses.. you & i both know they weren't.

[jimmy1569]

You really don't understand what a "fact" is, do you?

You're clearly not understanding it either.. Most of what's written is 100 % factual.... & then he lists his opinions derived from those facts.... if you'd be kind enough to list all the things you think aren't factual.. it'd be more beneficial to the forum.. ofcourse when he states he's unbeatable it's an opinion but then he lists a factual occurence to support that opinion... it's mostly factual with opinions thrown in for enhancement of those facts.