What if Ali hadn't had the 3 1/2 year layoff???

[Porter's Dad]

And LOL at the idea that he should have been shipped off to Nam instead of wasting taxpayers money. Like you give a **** about taxpayers money.

Ali telling them to screw themselves over military service was so badass and justified. This wasn't modern day America where Blacks live, work and mix with whites on a daily basis. This was when Blacks weren't able to go into many restaurants to get food.

Why would anyone then allow themselves to be used after being treated like garbage?

[Medved]

You're one to talk about people being racist. I half-expected you to bust out the ebonics again.

Was Ali racist? No; he said some things which he shouldn't have, and has accepted was wrong. But then, you try living in a country where you are treated like **** by a race of people who deem you inferior, and see how you feel. See if you can be so accepting.

****ing troll.

If i lived in a country where I was treated bad (he wasnt, he was rich, lived better than other people), you know what I would do? Move to a non screwed up country. What he did was break the law, everyone else had to go to War, but he thought he didnt have to and blamed it all as a big conspiracy by the whiteys (Who had their own sons in nam, even the highest ranking Government officials had their own kids over there).

Dont give me that BS he was treated bad and inferior and he wasnt racist, listen to some people who were in his camp, he hated white people.

99% of the people who got Drafted were poorer/had less money than him, they still went. He chose to ignore the LAWS of the country where he was a citizen. Shouldve came to canada if he wanted to be a draft dodger like George Bush.

[johnm is...]

still pissed off about your baby coming out black eh?

Did I say anything wrong about him as a person?

That would be wrong. He's just a baby.

[Porter's Dad]

If i lived in a country where I was treated bad (he wasnt, he was rich, lived better than other people), you know what I would do? Move to a non screwed up country. What he did was break the law, everyone else had to go to War, but he thought he didnt have to and blamed it all as a big conspiracy by the whiteys (Who had their own sons in nam, even the highest ranking Government officials had their own kids over there).

Dont give me that BS he was treated bad and inferior and he wasnt racist, listen to some people who were in his camp, he hated white people.

99% of the people who got Drafted were poorer/had less money than him, they still went. He chose to ignore the LAWS of the country where he was a citizen. Shouldve came to canada if he wanted to be a draft dodger like George Bush.

Yes, he was treated like ****, you ****** twat. Go do some research. Just because he had fame doesn't mean he was immune to it. Just be grateful you're never likely to experience the sort of hostility and racism he did.

At least he had an excuse to have a chip on his shoulder.

What's yours, troll?

[Medved]

Yes, he was treated like ****, you ****** twat. Go do some research. Just because he had fame doesn't mean he was immune to it. Just be grateful you're never likely to experience the sort of hostility and racism he did.

At least he had an excuse to have a chip on his shoulder.

What's yours, troll?

So other people werent treated badly? He was the only person in the world that was treated badly? People in America have NO idea what being treated badly means. Go to some parts of Asia/South America/Africa to see what REAL problems are. Where your entire city is beheaded and dumped in a pit with 100,000 people.

Compared to what? Being forced to go join a war? being called names by a few racists? not being able to eat in a few restaraunts. You have NO idea what treated badly even means.

Try living with 40 people in 1 room eating your own feces just so you dont die while avoiding lynching mobs that would kill off hundreds of thousands of people.

but yea, he had it real bad, poor guy. 99.9% of the country wouldve killed their own mother just to switch places with Ali.

Do some Homework, find some real History books. If what he went thru was "real hard" then sign me up, I would gladly become a rich black man in the 60's with a boatload of talent, people can call me anything they want.

He was the #2 most adored person in the country after Nixon FFS. Real hard life. Those kids in Laos have no idea !

"We who follow the teachings of Elijah Muhammad don't want to be forced to integrate. Integration is wrong. We don't want to live with the white man; that's all." -Muhammad Ali

[Grinderman]

is this necessary guy???

It's true, isn't it?

[-KPB-]

So other people werent treated badly? He was the only person in the world that was treated badly? People in America have NO idea what being treated badly means. Go to some parts of Asia/South America/Africa to see what REAL problems are. Where your entire city is beheaded and dumped in a pit with 100,000 people.

Compared to what? Being forced to go join a war? being called names by a few racists? not being able to eat in a few restaraunts. You have NO idea what treated badly even means.

Try living with 40 people in 1 room eating your own feces just so you dont die while avoiding lynching mobs that would kill off hundreds of thousands of people.

but yea, he had it real bad, poor guy. 99.9% of the country wouldve killed their own mother just to switch places with Ali.

Do some Homework, find some real History books. If what he went thru was "real hard" then sign me up, I would gladly become a rich black man with a boatload of talent, people can call me anything they want.

He was the #2 most adored person in the country after Nixon FFS. Real hard life. Those kids in Laos have no idea !

Bro, with all due respect, you are talking ****....

The reason why more is made out of this is because it was those same racist white poepl who brought the ****** over to America...and still treated them as ****....your using examples of things that happen in peoples natural country.......

Why bring the ****** to America, only to treat them like dogs....

[Grinderman]

You're one to talk about people being racist. I half-expected you to bust out the ebonics again.

Was Ali racist? No; he said some things which he shouldn't have, and has accepted was wrong. But then, you try living in a country where you are treated like **** by a race of people who deem you inferior, and see how you feel. See if you can be so accepting.

****ing troll.

Clay was handed the heavyweight title by the mob, because white boxing fans loved him and hated the real gangster, Liston. Whites loved Clay because he would act like a clown for them and make them laugh, where they feared the surly and snarling Liston.

Clay was loved in America until he decided to become an angry black ******, so it seems he brought most of his problems on himself.

[Grinderman]

Bro, with all due respect, you are talking ****....

The reason why more is made out of this is because it was those same racist white poepl who brought the ****** over to America...and still treated them as ****....your using examples of things that happen in peoples natural country.......

Why bring the ****** to America, only to treat them like dogs....

Clay was never a slave. Are you kidding?

White people loved Clay. The mob decided the real gangsta, Sonny Liston, had to go, because white audiences (ie the people with money) weren't into Liston as heavyweight champ. They feared Sonny.

Clay had his silly routines and white people LOVED him. He was silly and made faces and clowned and made them laugh, which is what they wanted from black people: entertainment.

Clay's problems stemmed from when he decided to become an angry black ****** and change his name to Muhammad Ali. He turned into something even more threatening than Liston, a black militant.

That's when his problems began. It was his decision to do this.

[Die Antwoord]

If he didnt have the lay off he would have fought Frazier earlier and lost and he never would be even more brain dead today. Ali lost to norton only after having 13 tuneups from his layoff and being the ripe old age of 31...ie. right when most hw's hit their prime. I love Ali fans trying to argue he wouldn't have aged as much if he hadn't had 3.5 years off. Such garbage. Vitali has 4 years off due to a serious injury from having a previous career as a kick boxer...Ali fans claim he wasnt prime because he once was kicked in the shins by a wrestler and took 3.5 years off just chillen...