Evander Holyfield vs. Alexander Povetkin: who will win?

[The Surgeon]

Yes, and? Do you dispute the point that everyone knows Povetkin is going to win?

Why are you d*cking my other question too? According to you Holyfield fighting for a paper title speaks volumes. Then what did Foreman winning THE LINEAR HW championship in the 90s mean?

Yes. 7 people voted Evander.

Not really my point anyway, why is Holy fighting for a title, what has he done!? **** what has Povetkin done to get that belt!?

Im not duckin nothing, i just didnt bother to acknowledge it but if u insist, First off Evander is even older than George at 48 who was prehistoric and has looked far worse than him too lately, lets not forget old Foreman gave young Evander a decent distance fight. Holyfield dosnt have the punch Foreman had either and without that he would never have saved himself from the ass whipping former LHW champ Moorer was putting on him and won the title.

Your not really into this fight are u? Seriously? Nah u couldnt be.....Then why defend it!?

[The Surgeon]

60/40 Povetkin.

Not a huge gap then

Evander has a real chance here? Im not saying he dosnt just so ur clear

[Pirao]

Yes. 7 people voted Evander.

Not really my point anyway, why is Holy fighting for a title, what has he done!? **** what has Povetkin done to get that belt!?

Im not duckin nothing, i just didnt bother to acknowledge it but if u insist, First off Evander is even older than George at 48 who was prehistoric and has looked far worse than him too lately, lets not forget old Foreman gave young Evander a decent distance fight. Holyfield dosnt have the punch Foreman had either and without that he would never have saved himself from the ass whipping former LHW champ Moorer was putting on him and won the title.

Your not really into this fight are u? Seriously? Nah u couldnt be.....Then why defend it!?

I am defending this fight really? Lol, where exactly did I do that?

Evander has done nothing to fight for the title and Povetkin has done nothing to win it, as you say, so this fights doesn't mean anything, right? I fail to see then how Evander fighting Povetkin "speaks volumes" about anything. And like it only happens in the HW division. I guess you missed Erik Morales winning a title for defeating some nobody recently, to mention but one example?

Oh and thanks for all the excuses, your bias is clear "Holyfield fighting for a paper title speaks volumes, but Foreman winning THE HW championship in a supposed "strong era" was all fine and dandy" GTFO

The 7 people who voted for Evander are either trolling or don't have a clue, take your pick.

BTW if anyone who is picking Evander wants to bet points, contact me, it's always nice to receive free e-money

[Pirao]

I have always maintained that after being robbed out of history against Valuev, Evander deserves another shot. Though his victory wouldnt, in my opinion, actually break Foremans record, it would be nice to see Evander get his shot since a Klitschko fight would be way too dangerous for his health.

He looked like **** in his last fight, but so did Povetkin. 60/40 Povetkin.

Yeah right.

Wanna bet your 80 million against my 160 million then?

[The Surgeon]

I am defending this fight really? Lol, where exactly did I do that?

Evander has done nothing to fight for the title and Povetkin has done nothing to win it, as you say, so this fights doesn't mean anything, right? I fail to see then how Evander fighting Povetkin "speaks volumes" about anything. And like it only happens in the HW division. I guess you missed Erik Morales winning a title for defeating some nobody recently, to mention but one example?

Oh and thanks for all the excuses, your bias is clear "Holyfield fighting for a paper title speaks volumes, but Foreman winning THE HW championship in a supposed "strong era" was all fine and dandy" GTFO

The 7 people who voted for Evander are either trolling or don't have a clue, take your pick.

BTW if anyone who is picking Evander wants to bet points, contact me, it's always nice to receive free e-money

Well u seem pretty upset ive criticised it...
The fact that its for a belt (we all know Klitchko is the real champ) is bad but the fact that a fighter of Evanders age after all his wars and the level he is at now is still relevant SPEAKS Volumes. Klitchko brothers aside the division is a joke. Even the brothers bore me to death, mabey if they had someone to fight it would be different, Vitali vs Lennox was entertaing for example but they dont.
Morales is no 4 division champ to me so dont bother with that one. He is however entertaining unlike the HW's.

Dude i have no bias, i couldnt give a monkeys


Im done with this its gotten as boring as the HW division itself!

[jimmy1569]

Povetkin by wide, wide, wide, unanimous decision.

I think people forget how easily Evander was beaten by Sultan Ibragimov.

This won't be close.

Sultan was a runner.... he tasted Holy's power a few times & did the ole circle to your right pittypat punches dance to win a decision.. He tried the same thing with Wladimir.... but only thing different is Wladimir could reach him to pile up the points. The fact that Povetkin is a thrower of leather will be to his disadvantage as that's EXACTLY what Holyfield needs.. he's orthodox & can be hit.... look for a spectacular turn back the clock Holy Tko in the late rds on this one. Holy will then advertise & claim the Klitschko's aren't REALLY undisputed champs until they fight the final piece of the puzzle.


That is Holy's plan.... the brother's by then will have gotten rid of all the cruisers in Mormeck.. Haye & Adamek & will have to FIGHT the ultimate cruiser of alltime as there won't be any opponents left to make money with. & the fact that Holy beat a top 3 or 4 heavy... they can't dismiss him as Holy will be legitimately ranked in the top 5-10 in all the organizations..... you guys want heavyweight excitement & NOT the fugazy type with HAYE.... WE'RE one step away from it... Holy vs The Klitschko's FOR ALL THE MARBLES.. TOP 10 ALLTIME HEAVIES AGAINST EACH other... a 50 YR old Holy TAKING out both Klitschko's at the HEIGHT of there dominance & we're looking at the BEST heavyweight that ever lived bar none.... let's make it happen!

[Pirao]

Well u seem pretty upset ive criticised it...
The fact that its for a belt (we all know Klitchko is the real champ) is bad but the fact that a fighter of Evanders age after all his wars and the level he is at now is still relevant SPEAKS Volumes. Klitchko brothers aside the division is a joke. Even the brothers bore me to death, mabey if they had someone to fight it would be different, Vitali vs Lennox was entertaing for example but they dont.
Morales is no 4 division champ to me so dont bother with that one. He is however entertaining unlike the HW's.

Dude i have no bias, i couldnt give a monkeys


Im done with this its gotten as boring as the HW division itself!

Of course you're done with this, you've been run into a corner and just keep repeating the same thing over and over

So according to you, Evander fighting for a paper title shows the division is a joke, but Foreman winning THE LINEAR (I repeat, not a paper title, and not fighting for it and losing, like Evander will, but actually winning THE HW championship) in the 90's was ok, and then you say you have no bias

If you don't give a "monkey's" why are you posting in threads concerning the HW division? For example, I don't like most of the lighter divisions so I just don't comment on them. You however come here, show you have an agenda, and then run away when your points are easily countered. But of course you deny it and say you have no bias, lol, get the **** out of here.

[jimmy1569]

Holyfield can't knock him out at 48yo and he is not getting the decision whether he'll deserve it or not.

Holyfield's been feasting on the slow overseas fighters.. Savarese.. Oquendo Botha Nielsen.. Valuev & some of them got rocked by vintage Holy bombs.. don't sleep on his power.. he can still hurt you if he lands right & then follow up with patented Holy combos.

[jimmy1569]

You all CLEARLY have no respect for a soon to be 50 yr old legend... You mask your disdain by saying he's shot to pieces (he's proven he can compete vs EVERY single opponent since they justly reinstated his license) every opponent he's faced was supposed to be fighting a manslaughter rap after fighting him..... has only lost twice in back to back title fights overseas... once he lost to a slick southpaw runner & another he clearly won all 12 rds vs a 7 ft freak of nature that was SUPPOSEDLY going to have him killed with his shadow alone..


This guy is the only consistently in shape fighter besides the brothers & Haye & is physically fit to fight... has two healthy shoulders & is coming to get what's his.. This story should be glorified... not laughed upon.. we;re using is warrior mentality against him.... we're poking fun of it when we used to rever it



When i say we mask our disdain... we justify our displeasure in seeing him fight.... 1) Because of age & lack of Foreman power>>>> funny how he's had both 90 bigs in Lewis & Bowe on ***** street.. rocked Tyson & his conqueror to there very core & even had Big George reeling all over the effin' place.. had rock chinned Mercer down for the first time & had Moorer down about 7 times in there 2 fights.. Big George had him down once & we glorify his power.... so what's this bias exactly where it comes to Holy's power.. sure he doesn't do it consistently like other sluggers but he's certainly more heavy handed than ALI.



2) We use the ole concern for his health bit by destroying his character & stating he's making a mockery of himself & boxing by fighting on. How this is concern for his well being... i'll NEVER know..... more like degradation of a boxing legend that's given us the MOST exciting fights any boxer has ever given us in the heavyweight divsion in the past quarter century.



3) We make fun of his goal.. instead of embracing the story.. we put a coffin on it like he's going to be RJJ'ed into concussion everytime he fights.. It's his right to fight & HE;s ****ing qualified to do so even at close to 50 BECAUSE of the fact he keeps himself in 100% physical shape (same as the Klitschko's)



4) We think both brothers win by murder simultaneously.. when in fact Evander is MORE qualified to fight them then ANY OTHER heavyweight OUT THERE.. hOLYFIELD is capable of hurting the brother(s) if he somehow gets inside.. you can bet he'll figure out a way or will die trying.... will be extra motivated knowing it's his LAST chance at his goal.. we thought Tyson would murder him.. we thought Valuev WOULD MURDER HIM... ALBEIT THE BROTHERS do have one weapon they can use all night against him & that is the left handed jab but like i said I WOULDN'T PUT ANYTHING PAST him.. as he has the capabilities to at least put up the BEST fight the Klitschko's have had since they last lost.

This is a guy we used to rever... for the people that say what has HE done to earn a heavyweight title shot... i say go look at his ****ing achievements & stfu!