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Floyd MAYWEATHER SENIOR: "He's Still My Son, But..."
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Originally posted by RajahBell View PostOh, he has a lot of insight, I think Sr. only said that Jr. needs a "reality check" so that he'll go back to his daddy and ask for his forgiveness. Sr. is just waiting in the wings to comfort Jr. and show him that he is truly there for him. It is a chance for him to gain respect of his son and make up for lost time.
As a father, and presumably someone with more experience, you can also TRY to maintain a good relationship and to create an environment where you are getting along.
How is Senior doing that by continuously bigging himself up in the presence of Junior/Roger?
I don't remember Earl Woods doing that? Where's Archie Manning on TV sucking his own ****?
Is JellyBean Bryant always looking for the red light of a camera to say "look what I built"?
Disclaimer: I would never speak to my Dad the way Floyd did. I call my dad to tell him I love him.
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Originally posted by CONQUERING View PostWhy not? I have a great relationship with my dad but believe me, we have had some VERY rocky roads. Some that occurred right before I got married in 2010. Where my old dude said that when he seen me he was going to beat me up like I was some person on the street (and he's a former boxer, might I add).
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Originally posted by chito View Postwhat's this gotta do w/ his opinion on the issue? because he doesn't know the real story abt sr & jr, who knows abt it, really? just asking ...
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Originally posted by S IP U IR S xII View PostAnd most street fights last about that......Originally posted by LarryX2011 View PostThats bout how long a normal street fight lasts man,this isnt a boxing match.pops taught Floyd and is street id bet on pops in the streets
Silly rabbits.
Originally posted by LarryX2011 View PostHold up hold up so you're attemping to diss the mans father cause floyd acting like a lil spoil brat???wow man,im out of here.....just cause you're a fan doesnt mean the man is never wrong
Originally posted by yesir View PostJr never threatened Sr but how many times didnt Sr threaten to put his hands on floyd but Sr didnt go over board?
you are tripping, dawg
I don't think that there is any question as to who Floyd Sr is. If anything, he's always consistent. Floyd Jr however, who used to be quiet and reserved on camera, is now the loudest mouth in boxing.
There was a time when Floyd Jr and Floyd Sr didn't talk. Floyd Sr hasn't changed and has never claimed to have changed. If Floyd knows his father's mind and there hasn't ever been a change in the dynamic of their relationship, then why invite Sr back to the gym in the first place? To pull some crass bull**** like that?
I am a fan of Floyd's, but I think some people tale being a fan waaaay too seriously. Floyd is not perfect. He is not God. No boxer is. No man is. Yet some are defending him like what he did was acceptable in any family dynamic. No one like to be embarrassed. Least of all in front of the entire world.
I'm not saying that Sr had no culpability in the matter. He's as flawed as any other human being. Still, IMO the discussion took a swing in the wrong direction when Floyd Jr decided to make it personal. First questioning Sr's skills as a trainer, then his past abilities as a fighter, then reminding him that it was his gym.
I am a huge fan of Mayweather Jr the boxer, but he wouldn't be half the boxer he is without his father. Roger wouldn't have even been a pro boxer without Floyd Sr. Jeff as well. Roger didn't offer Floyd anything new. He just took the reigns when Floyd split with his father at the age of 20.
People who think that Floyd Sr isn't the patriarch of the Mayweather boxing clan are just ******. Of course he has an ego. Who wouldn't? If you fought at the top level of pro boxing(against Ray Leonard), you brought up your brother who became world champion, and now your son is one of the greatest boxers of all time, you wouldn't develop an ego?
Thing is, Floyd doesn't think that his father has earned the right to have that ego. He feels as though ONLY HE has earned the right to have an ego that large. And there lies the source of the friction IMO.
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Originally posted by Gino Ros View PostIt doesn't work that way.
As a father, and presumably someone with more experience, you can also TRY to maintain a good relationship and to create an environment where you are getting along.
How is Senior doing that by continuously bigging himself up in the presence of Junior/Roger?
I don't remember Earl Woods doing that? Where's Archie Manning on TV sucking his own ****?
Is JellyBean Bryant always looking for the red light of a camera to say "look what I built"?
Disclaimer: I would never speak to my Dad the way Floyd did. I call my dad to tell him I love him.
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Originally posted by Brother Jay View PostThe above 2 quote are absolutely true. I don't know why anyone would think that if things got ugly the two would start circling each other jabbing. Some people think that MMA and boxing is REAL violence.
Silly rabbits.
Correct again. I like Floyd as a boxer but what he did on film was deplorable. People argue with family all the time. It happens in every family. It is however, another story when you air it on television. There are a lot of things you can come back from ... as long as its in the privacy of your own home. Publicly airing out your dirty laundry however is sometimes the straw that breaks the bull's back.
So you think that the threats were the source of the conflict? I thought it was the disrespectful way that Floyd felt comfortable talking to his father. We all know that even when being cordial they speak with a tone that most would take as confrontational. That is their way. It has nothing to do with class. What did have to do with class is taking it from zero to sixty over a comment that had to do with other female boxers on camera.
I don't think that there is any question as to who Floyd Sr is. If anything, he's always consistent. Floyd Jr however, who used to be quiet and reserved on camera, is now the loudest mouth in boxing.
There was a time when Floyd Jr and Floyd Sr didn't talk. Floyd Sr hasn't changed and has never claimed to have changed. If Floyd knows his father's mind and there hasn't ever been a change in the dynamic of their relationship, then why invite Sr back to the gym in the first place? To pull some crass bull**** like that?
I am a fan of Floyd's, but I think some people tale being a fan waaaay too seriously. Floyd is not perfect. He is not God. No boxer is. No man is. Yet some are defending him like what he did was acceptable in any family dynamic. No one like to be embarrassed. Least of all in front of the entire world.
I'm not saying that Sr had no culpability in the matter. He's as flawed as any other human being. Still, IMO the discussion took a swing in the wrong direction when Floyd Jr decided to make it personal. First questioning Sr's skills as a trainer, then his past abilities as a fighter, then reminding him that it was his gym.
I am a huge fan of Mayweather Jr the boxer, but he wouldn't be half the boxer he is without his father. Roger wouldn't have even been a pro boxer without Floyd Sr. Jeff as well. Roger didn't offer Floyd anything new. He just took the reigns when Floyd split with his father at the age of 20.
People who think that Floyd Sr isn't the patriarch of the Mayweather boxing clan are just ******. Of course he has an ego. Who wouldn't? If you fought at the top level of pro boxing(against Ray Leonard), you brought up your brother who became world champion, and now your son is one of the greatest boxers of all time, you wouldn't develop an ego?
Thing is, Floyd doesn't think that his father has earned the right to have that ego. He feels as though ONLY HE has earned the right to have an ego that large. And there lies the source of the friction IMO.
and i never said that threats were the source of the conflict but people want to point the finger at Jr and say he was more in the wrong. well i disagree when you have the daddy calling the son mother****er and threatening to put his hands on his song first. yes Jr degraded Sr as a boxing and trainer which was wrong but when you threaten bodily harm, thats an all new low and takes things to another level. theres no if ands or buts about it
and i disagree with your notion that the son HAS to bow-down to the dad. yeah, floyd was silent in the past but he "found" his voice. if Sr doesnt have to change, why does floyd or anyone for that matter. im not going to change to accommodate how my father operates.
i think floyd wants his dad to tone it down a bit atleast when in his establishment and let floyd do floyd him while supporting him. Floyd gives his dad credit for what he has done but doesnt want his dad thinking he can take credit for everything floydhas done. i was a percussionist from when i was a kid throughout college going on to march in two drum corps, my father and brother got me into drumming but my father wanted to take credit for me going as far as i did while my brother never did. and i would get into with my father all the time when he tried to take credit.
yeah, i learned from him in the very beginning but i learned from other percussion instructors who helped me take my craft to the next level...far beyond what my dad taught me or could have taught me but my dad cant take credit for all of my accomplishments as a drummer just b/c he got me into it.
i doubt floyd has a prob with his dad having an ego. everyone has an ego who is competitive. the prob is that Sr goes over and beyond to outshine everyone around him. fam memebers, fighters hes training, his son, his brothers etcLast edited by Pacquiao'd; 08-31-2011, 11:11 AM.
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Originally posted by RajahBell View PostSo, no one thinks Little Floyd will ever apologize to Sr for disrespecting him on National TV. In Sr.'s mind he will if he gets a "reality check." Like the prodigal son, Jr. will be knocking on his dad's door when he has no one and nothing else to turn too.
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