Comments Thread For: Mayweather-Ortiz 24/7 P1: Floyd Jr., Floyd Sr. Clash

[Pacquiao'd]

That's true.

Sr does need to respect his son as a man and the man Jr has become. No doubting that.

Who am I, but me personally, Floyd should've talked about the root of the problem first. Meaning, what's really been bothering him as a kid that Sr has done and is still doing. I didn't see that here.

My father was verbally and physically abusive. For example, I remember getting smacked in the back of the head as a kid because I beat him in a video game. But as I got older, I was able to express my feelings about what he's done that's disturbed me for so long. I'm not saying everyone should handle things like me, that's just my point of view.

im with you, man. im 28 now. at the age of 25 was when i was able to move beyond the past with my dad. and it wasnt b.c we talked it out. the last time we tried to talk about it, we ended up in an argument again and almost came to blows.

i finally saw that no matter how cordial and civilized you tried to be with this man and have this convo, hes always going to get angry. and im not going to allow him to disrespect me b.c he was my ***** donor.

i realized that hes going to be who he is, he can only be himself and which isnt a loving parent. i cant dwell on the past wishing he was different so i told him that i was over the topic. we will have to agree to disagree.

we are cool but we dont really have a relationship either. its been months since the last time i spoke to him. in all of my years, he has never gotten me a bday present or even told me happy bday.

i respect the fact that hes my father but that doesnt mean he can treat me whatever way he wants and i have to take just b.c hes my father. this is something these cats dont get and i question the type of relationships they had with their dad. b.c its obvious their relationship with their dads was better than mine with my father.

now add the fact that the mayweathers are natural born fighters, egotistical and highly competitive amoungst all the other things Sr did to floyd, floyds mom and whoever was in his path...thats a bad combo. i couldnt deal with having a dad like Sr or what i have seen of Sr. if they havent come to blows yet, id be really surprised b.c i swould have ****ed my dad up long ago if he was anything close to sr and around as much as he is.

you have to be respectful to people, it doesnt matter if you gave birth to them or not. something my dad doesnt understand himself

[BoxingGenius27]

What did Sr say so terrible? hes been acting and saying the same **** for Floyds last 3 or 4 camps.. "Im the best trainer, I started this" etc etc.. Which is all true I might add.. I guess EGOs clashing, but at the same time Floyd acting like a little kid wasnt a good look. His pops didnt mean any ill will, Im sure Floyd put extras on it for the cameras tho.. Sr didnt come off as disrespectful to Roger or Jrs gym. Jr was the one out of line imo.. Like I said, if you have that much pinned up hatred for your dad(whos the reason youre rich) then dont let him in the gym in the first place.

Exactly, it's all pinned up anger from over the years. If anyone believe's that argument got that heated over what was said in that small segment is wrong. Floyd's hatred goes back farther and deeper than what was displayed during 24/7.

That's why I said Floyd should've brought up the root of the problem and what's been bothering him. Instead, he went off over a subject that wasn't really the root of the problem.

In the same breath, Sr should've stopped trying to be a peer instead of a father figure a long time ago. When I think of father figure, I think of someone I can go to for advice when I really need it. Not someone that's competing with me on who on who can dance the best. That might not be the best example, but you get the point.

Mayweather Sr hasn't been a father figure to Floyd. You can't use "I'm your father" as a catch phrase and expect someone to take you up on it. Then again, maybe Sr never knew how and he just gave Floyd everything he knew at the time.

[BoxingGenius27]

im with you, man. im 28 now. at the age of 25 was when i was able to move beyond the past with my dad. and it wasnt b.c we talked it out. the last time we tried to talk about it, we ended up in an argument again and almost came to blows.

i finally saw that no matter how cordial and civilized you tried to be with this man and have this convo, hes always going to get angry. and im not going to allow him to disrespect me b.c he was my ***** donor.

i realized that hes going to be who he is, he can only be himself and which isnt a loving parent. i cant dwell on the past wishing he was different so i told him that i was over the topic. we will have to agree to disagree.

we are cool but we dont really have a relationship either. its been months since the last time i spoke to him. in all of my years, he has never gotten me a bday present or even told me happy bday.

i respect the fact that hes my father but that doesnt mean he can treat me whatever way he wants and i have to take just b.c hes my father. this is something these cats dont get and i question the type of relationships they had with their dad. b.c its obvious their relationship with their dads was better than mine with my father.

now add the fact that the mayweathers are natural born fighters, egotistical and highly competitive amoungst all the other things Sr did to floyd, floyds mom and whoever was in his path...thats a bad combo. i couldnt deal with having a dad like Sr or what i have seen of Sr. if they havent come to blows yet, id be really surprised b.c i swould have ****ed my dad up long ago if he was anything close to sr and around as much as he is.

you have to be respectful to people, it doesnt matter if you gave birth to them or not. something my dad doesnt understand himself

I feel you man. When a man reaches a certain age, there's no changing them. No matter how civil you try to be and talk things out. I think you did the right thing by being the bigger man and not putting hands on your pops.

I could crush my dad right now. Physically he's no match for me. It would be over quicker than a Tyson fight. Especially after all the phyical/mental abuse I had to deal with. But, still till this day, whenever me and my father speak, I try to give him advice and change his lifestyle with my words.

I think Sr and Jr were wrong. Mainly, I put the blame on Sr for where their relationship is today. Maybe Sr never knew how to be a father, but that still doesn't erase the fact that he demoted himself as a father a long time ago. The only thing I wish Jr would've done was expressed what the "real" problem was and exactly what his dad did to him to cause their relationship to be in the state that it's in.

[Pacquiao'd]

What did Sr say so terrible? hes been acting and saying the same **** for Floyds last 3 or 4 camps.. "Im the best trainer, I started this" etc etc.. Which is all true I might add.. I guess EGOs clashing, but at the same time Floyd acting like a little kid wasnt a good look. His pops didnt mean any ill will, Im sure Floyd put extras on it for the cameras tho.. Sr didnt come off as disrespectful to Roger or Jrs gym. Jr was the one out of line imo.. Like I said, if you have that much pinned up hatred for your dad(whos the reason youre rich) then dont let him in the gym in the first place.

dude. this is their livelyhood. floyd didnt choose boxing, his father made that choice for him.

the fact that Sr got jr into boxing and is part of the reason floyd is where he is today its a moot point, really.

b.c floyds pro career has progressed WITHOUT Sr. you cant keep taking credit when you were only there for a certain amount of time. that right there is disrespectful b.c Roger, Jr and their team put in all the hard work to get Jr where he is today. so stop beating drum b.c its over played

YOU ARENT THEM. you dont know what floyd went through, what his dad did or didnt do. you are a spectator just like myself. floyd obviously has his reason for feeling the way he does. and based on what Sr has said himself, i doubt anyone could have a heart-to-heart with that man.

and he was disrespectful to Roger, Jr and the team...father or not

[Pacquiao'd]

Exactly, it's all pinned up anger from over the years. If anyone believe's that argument got that heated over what was said in that small segment is wrong. Floyd's hatred goes back farther and deeper than what was displayed during 24/7.

That's why I said Floyd should've brought up the root of the problem and what's been bothering him. Instead, he went off over a subject that wasn't really the root of the problem.

In the same breath, Sr should've stopped trying to be a peer instead of a father figure a long time ago. When I think of father figure, I think of someone I can go to for advice when I really need it. Not someone that's competing with me on who on who can dance the best. That might not be the best example, but you get the point.

Mayweather Sr hasn't been a father figure to Floyd. You can't use "I'm your father" as a catch phrase and expect someone to take you up on it. Then again, maybe Sr never knew how and he just gave Floyd everything he knew at the time.

i agree with everything you wrote

[Pacquiao'd]

I feel you man. When a man reaches a certain age, there's no changing them. No matter how civil you try to be and talk things out. I think you did the right thing by being the bigger man and not putting hands on your pops.

I could crush my dad right now. Physically he's no match for me. It would be over quicker than a Tyson fight. Especially after all the phyical/mental abuse I had to deal with. But, still till this day, whenever me and my father speak, I try to give him advice and change his lifestyle with my words.

I think Sr and Jr were wrong. Mainly, I put the blame on Sr for where their relationship is today. Maybe Sr never knew how to be a father, but that still doesn't erase the fact that he demoted himself as a father a long time ago. The only thing I wish Jr would've done was expressed what the "real" problem was and exactly what his dad did to him to cause their relationship to be in the state that it's in.

i agree with everything here too. good post, mang

even the thinnest pancake has two sides. but the blind hatred people have for Floyd keeps them oblivious to what has happened and what happened in this segment, even.

i mean, its staring them right in the face but their hatred for floyd has gotten them them ignore everything that Sr said and did. smh

[jbpanama]

what a pathetic human being

Seems the APPLE dosen't fall FAR, from the TREE!!!

[King Jaffe Joffer]

dude. this is their livelyhood. floyd didnt choose boxing, his father made that choice for him.

the fact that Sr got jr into boxing and is part of the reason floyd is where he is today its a moot point, really.

b.c floyds pro career has progressed WITHOUT Sr. you cant keep taking credit when you were only there for a certain amount of time. that right there is disrespectful b.c Roger, Jr and their team put in all the hard work to get Jr where he is today. so stop beating drum b.c its over played

YOU ARENT THEM. you dont know what floyd went through, what his dad did or didnt do. you are a spectator just like myself. floyd obviously has his reason for feeling the way he does. and based on what Sr has said himself, i doubt anyone could have a heart-to-heart with that man.

and he was disrespectful to Roger, Jr and the team...father or not

SR didnt disrespect Roger, in fact if you watch it again he said theres nothing wrong with Roger training him. And Sr also said they both felt that in their opinions they were both the best trainers so it doesnt matter.. Floyd Sr was calm and collective, Jr was the one who brought up Sr being jealous out of the blue, he started the name calling, he asked him why is he here and we dont need you here etc etc.. If you watch it again, SR didnt say or do ANYTHING wrong, Floyd was the antagonizer 100%
Floyd was being an emotional wreck from things SR did in the past Im guessing. JR was definitely out of line.
And Sr also put the gloves in Jrs hands, that kept Floyd out of trouble because he was always in the gym. Sr was a ****ing goon, he didnt know how to be a father but at the end of the day he taught Floyd everything he knows about boxing. And now Floyd is enjoying the fruits of his labor because of it. No one is taking credit for what Roger did, he did what a brother is supposed to. But when he got Floyd, Floyd was something special. And Sr did train Floyd for his first 10 fights if Im not mistaken..
Anywho, at the end of the day Floyd was in the wrong here.

[Born2Live]

lol, Floyd is a very clever guy, was this out burst staged? no!

Floyd & his dad always have little out bursts like this, Floyd saw the chance to market the fight with more controversy with the cameras being around, so he decided to go over the top with the out burst, had there not been any cameras at the gym, that argument would've ended much more calmer & different tone, calling your dad a F-aggot is messed up though.

[jbpanama]

He called PBF a "punk" first.

I've watched this thing , like, ten times now. And the more I watch, the more I blame Senior for escalating.

Now, keep in mind that I would NEVER talk to my dad that way, and I think PBF should have shut up, walked away, and had somebody call his dad to ask him not to come to the gym for the duration of camp.

But Senior escalated it.

He called PBF a PUNK??? Father knows BEST!!!