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  • Originally posted by FidellyAgboli View Post
    He has a clear mexican bias. Somehow he thinks luis collazo beat berto, and now jose luis castillo and oscar both beat floyd. Ridiculous. No respect at all for mayweather's skills or style he says.. i can't wait til mayweather toys with this overhyped, overrated quitter
    Where is the Mexican bias?

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    • Originally posted by mrjoeblive View Post
      what honest post????? you mean honest B.S. pac NEVER complained abou taking blood in the morales fight. he complained that the gloves were like pillows and thats why he lost. and how can you dogged floyds family as "un educated" so pac went to harvard? or did he go to school at all? well we all know he dropped out of first grade to help his family. so get off your crap about education. this is a fight not a debate(floyd still wins in that arena as well) and get off the commish crap too. pac didnt follow the commish rules when he fought margarito who was suspended by NSAC and was suppose to be suspended by all state commish until re instated by NSAC. and asking for a ten million penalty per pound over wt is not pacs place if you want to go by commish rules. its the commish that regulates penalties. so dont talk commish rules if you only follow them when it suits you!!!!!!
      The post was correct Pacquiao did have to take a test the day of the fight and he said he felt like it made him week... To off-set that he said he'll piss everyday and give hair samples and take a blood test up to 20 days before and right after the fight. But, that's old new since he agreed to everything. The comment about the Mayweathers being uneducated was made because they want to change the rules and think they know more than the SAC. So if Manny did the same thing than his education would have been relevant but since only the Mayweathers wanted to overrule the SAC their edu was brought up, is that hard to understand???? One SAC has no control over the other so tha only SAC that matters is SAC for the state in which the fight is taking place. Example, some states go to the score cards after 4 rounds and some after 3, Nevada (NSAC), California (CSAC), and Texas (TSAC) are all different SAC and not one has control over the other. Is that hard to understand???? The SAC doesn't regulate over pound penalties. The reason fighters put that into contracts is because its not fair if one fighters does everything possible to make weight and the other guy doesn't. When that happens if the fight is called off the fighters don't get paid. The fighter that trained 8 weeks would get zero for making weight or paid to fight at a disadvantage. When they could have signed and made a guaranteed 10mil to fight someone else, hince the penalty is to fight at a disadvantage like Marquez did and he got paid for it. Example, SAC sets a minimun for glove oz., so if its 10 oz. the fighters can make the cantract at 12oz. 14oz. or 16oz. it doesn't matter as long as it isn't below 10oz. Do you understand? If you go on youtube you can find the interview and clip of Freddie Roach talking about the testing before the 1st Morales fight and the Reyes vs. Winning glove was also an issue but with Manny's promoter at the time the dude with the messed up teeth agreed too. So Manny honored his contract and fought with the Winning gloves and complied with the SAC by testing on the day of the fight. Unlike Floyd who came in 2 pounds overweight, not honoring his contract. You seem so eager to defend Floyd that you seem to loss common sense... A third grader can underdstand when someone wants to tell the SAC that their testing is shot then the person making the claim qualifications will be called into play. NOT the person saying I'll follow the SAC rules... Do you understand????

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      • Originally posted by studentofthegam View Post
        Why is it weak when he has fought easily better comp than Khan, Ortiz and arguably Manny?
        Because, you can lesser fighters who are also undefeated no?

        So weak argument.

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        • Originally posted by studentofthegam View Post
          Why is it weak when he has fought easily better comp than Khan, Ortiz and arguably Manny?
          Arguably Manny ?

          Morales HOF
          Barrera HOF
          Marquez (@ his natural weight class x2) HOF
          Cotto (Arguably HOF)

          .........

          Floyd ?

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          • Originally posted by DominiBox View Post
            Arguably Manny ?

            Morales HOF
            Barrera HOF
            Marquez (@ his natural weight class x2) HOF
            Cotto (Arguably HOF)

            .........

            Floyd ?
            Cotto is not arguably a hOF'er. If he is than so is Hatton, Castillo, Corrales, Gatti, Hernandez.

            None of them are HOF'ers. And, Morales wasn't prime.

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            • Originally posted by KnockUTheFukOut View Post
              UH...NO THE *** HE DIDN'T!

              I think Duran QUIT because Leonard wouldn't go toe to toe and Duran didn't want to chase him around the ring the entire fight... and he DID NOT stand Toe To Toe with Hagler, Leonard Ran for most of the Round then threw a Flurry Of Punches at the very end of the Rounds
              Thats right! Leonard did brawl-box with Duran the first fight and lost...He fought Durans style of fight which makes no sense. Second fight no toe to toe at all he moved the whole fight. And I watched the Hagler fight just a few days ago and Leonard ran the whole fight and flurry from time to time.He did put on a great boxing performance considering he was off for 5 years though.As far as Hearns you have to give him credit for standing in the pocket.

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              • Originally posted by antrecasner View Post
                Thats right! Leonard did brawl-box with Duran the first fight and lost...He fought Durans style of fight which makes no sense. Second fight no toe to toe at all he moved the whole fight. And I watched the Hagler fight just a few days ago and Leonard ran the whole fight and flurry from time to time.He did put on a great boxing performance considering he was off for 5 years though.As far as Hearns you have to give him credit for standing in the pocket.
                It made sense because that was Leonard style of fighting. Leonard fought his fight against Duran the first time.

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                • Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                  Cotto is not arguably a hOF'er. If he is than so is Hatton, Castillo, Corrales, Gatti, Hernandez.

                  None of them are HOF'ers. And, Morales wasn't prime.
                  I don't like Cotto that much....but he was a solid fighter (maybe not a HOFer). But for me, Gatti is a HOFer! And don't compare Cotto with Hatton, plzz.. That's not an intelligent comparison!

                  Morales wasn't prime? Wasn't prime when he defeated Pacquiao or when he lost 2 times against Pacquiao?

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                  • Originally posted by DominiBox View Post
                    Arguably Manny ?

                    Morales HOF
                    Barrera HOF
                    Marquez (@ his natural weight class x2) HOF
                    Cotto (Arguably HOF)

                    .........

                    Floyd ?
                    Floyd beat Marquez like a drum. I love Morales, I do, but none of those guys gives Floyd any trouble at any point in either of their careers. You know that dont you. Floyd wins all fantasy fights for a reason. You folks are treating Mayweather like he's Ottke or somethin'. Its really insane. Cant help he makes these "challenges" look easy.

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                    • Originally posted by DominiBox View Post
                      I don't like Cotto that much....but he was a solid fighter (maybe not a HOFer). But for me, Gatti is a HOFer! And don't compare Cotto with Hatton, plzz.. That's not an intelligent comparison!

                      Morales wasn't prime? Wasn't prime when he defeated Pacquiao or when he lost 2 times against Pacquiao?
                      Not making a comparison. Just saying if one is a HOF'er than so is the other one.

                      Yes Cotto was a solid fighter, was a good fighter, at one point an elite fighter. However, not a HOF'er.

                      Morales wasn't prime in any of the Pac fights.

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