Where do YOU rate the Klitschkos?

[edgarg]

I see your knowledge of history is VERY similar to your knowledge of boxing: Superficial bordering on ignorant.

Poet

If you like to think so....be my guest. It places you exactly where you should be.....in my opinion. Perhaps you'd like to explain why Wilie Hohenzollern was NOT the laughingstock of Europe for so many years.....if you can.

[JAB5239]

Make sure you reinstate the Poet's response to my first and original post in that thread.

You exposed nothing.

Wasn't it just you complaining about who fired the first bullet as a troll? I've plainly shown it was you in your very first post in that thread and now you want to twist things and lay blame elsewhere. All Poets posts were deleted to, so Im obviously not biased. You've been owned again son, give it up.

[Uturn]

InB4 'Klitschko are greatest of all time'.

[Pirao]

Of course they are Bro.

If you indecently touch a young kid for 5 seconds, you're a child abuser.

Or don't you agree??

What an example.

[cupocity303]

Wasn't it just you complaining about who fired the first bullet as a troll? I've plainly shown it was you in your very first post in that thread and now you want to twist things and lay blame elsewhere. All Poets posts were deleted to, so Im obviously not biased. You've been owned again son, give it up.

You have shown nothing.

Think about it, why would I rub it in his face by showing his hideous looking picture, of him and his obese wife, if it wasn't provoked first?

But keep fishing, this is hilarious.

[bojangles1987]

Another knee-jerk reaction. If I didn't phrase it correctly for you to understand the first time, you should've understood my context in the post you just responded to. I believe I covered all the bases. MOVING ON.




He said, she said. And round we go. See above comment.



Wlad's jab is a combination of pawing to keep an opponent at bay/establish a range, and jabbing hard if he sees you're coming in, or if you're just covering up in a turtle shell and being stationary. All while he barely uses his footwork, nothing like Ali at least, who in his prime expended lots of energy for his jab to work.

Once Ali lost his footwork, his jab wasn't as effective, and he resorted to doing the Rope-A-Dope more and more. Hence why it's not nearly as effective as Wlad's. He relied on footwork for it to be effective, Wlad relies on his Height. Ali lost his footwork, but Wlad sure isn't losing his height.

To me Wlad's Jab >> Ali's jab, as it is multidimensional in keeping fighters off him (pawing) and hitting hard in between all the pawing.




This is theoretical and no way for me to argue against. I have always said that he had stamina issues due to him trying to fight like a lower weight, smaller fighter, by moving around too much and expending unnecessary energy, trying to do the same thing that he could do with HALF EFFORT.

And yes, we agree, he has since then closed the gap and perfected that style. Some call it boring, some call it him being scared. I call it the perfect, most effective style possible. He has been consistent, and he has consistently dominated a wide range of different styles. And I don't believe a 5'11, Low-Weight Smoking Joe would be any different, for reasons already mentioned.



I'm glad to hear that.

I didn't make that part up, I have heard it from multiple people, that people who favor Klitschko in any scenario get trashed, if they retaliate get banned, and that's almost exactly what happened.

The Pink Font troll was the first to get on my case just for giving my answer to the Thread's question. And I retaliated. Take it as you will.

It seems we could actually discuss boxing in a civilized manner, but it would have to be on a different topic. So I'll stop, since it's probably too late for that in this thread or the Frazier vs. Wlad thread. Too much off topic posts both ways.

[edgarg]

If you like to think so....be my guest. It places you exactly where you should be.....in my opinion. Perhaps you'd like to explain why Wilie Hohenzollern was NOT the laughingstock of Europe for so many years.....if you can.

As Barbara Tuchman put it..."Willie Hohenzollern, the possessor of the least inhibited tongue in Europe.....". In other places he was referred to as "That madman in Berlin".. and "That sabre rattling fool in Potsdam".

I have lots more.......Please just explain them, your "All Powerful Imperial Highness"... "God's Anointed Vicar".........

[Poet682006]

As Barbara Tuchman put it..."Willie Hohenzollern, the possessor of the least inhibited tongue in Europe.....". In other places he was referred to as "That madman in Berlin".. and "That sabre rattling fool in Potsdam".

I have lots more.......Please just explain them, your "All Powerful Imperial Highness"... "God's Anointed Vicar".........

If you get your history from Tuchman it's no wonder your knowledge is superficial bordering on non-existent. Tuchman is about as shallow a "popular history" as it gets.

laughingstock of Europe for so many years.

That would be the faqqity-ass Windsors.

Poet

[edgarg]

If you use you abuse. Period. End of story. No different then a dope head: If you take dope you're an abuser. Period. And btw, why don't you go back to your glory-hole since no one wants to watch a grown man rhetorically fellate two slow unathletic white dudes from Ukraine.

Poet

I haven't the faintest idea what you're talking about, and I seriously doubt if you exactly know either. I was wondering how long it would be before you descended to your more normal low, trashy vulgarities. I remember you well from long ago...you see.....

You seem to be referring to the Klitschkos. Well, they ARE the World's Heavyweight Champions, so why not refer to them with, perhaps, a little respect. Or is that too much to ask of your "manhood"?? Instead of trying to provoke a macho sort of dispute with me who won't play your little game. To make yourself feel good this time, you'll just have to look in the mirror, just like your friend Willy...I should say, Villy Hohenazollern.

You may..or may not....notice that the language I use in dealing even with the lies of you, keeps well above the line of gentility and politeness. Why not try...try and try again, to make yourself better, "every day, in every way"..... and not just the usual piece of obscentity. Mr. "Poet"........

[Poet682006]

I haven't the faintest idea what you're talking about, and I seriously doubt if you exactly know either. I was wondering how long it would be before you descended to your more normal low, trashy vulgarities. I remember you well from long ago...you see.....

Translation: I pwned your ignorant ass a few years ago and you're still butthurt about it

Well, they ARE the World's Heavyweight Champions, so why not refer to them with, perhaps, a little respect.

Let them earn it first.

To make yourself feel good this time, you'll just have to look in the mirror, just like your friend Willy...I should say, Villy Hohenazollern.

You know, just because that avatar seems to irritate you I think I'll leave it up a while.

Poet