The top seven tangible reasons why Victor Ortiz will not defeat Floyd Mayweather, Jr.

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  • champion4ever
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    The top seven tangible reasons why Victor Ortiz will not defeat Floyd Mayweather, Jr.

    Let me start by conceding that Victor Ortiz is the younger, stronger, bigger, more athletic and harder hitter of the two boxers. Everyone should know this; It is a given. Also, Floyd is 34 years old, turned pro in 1996 and has been inactive for 16 months. Therefore, all the intangibles are in Victor's favor. However, with that being said and if father time and ring rust has yet to catch up to Floyd Mayweather, Jr. Then these are the seven tangible reasons why this will be a difficult task for Victor Ortiz and why he won't win this fight:

    1. He doesn't throw enough punches. One of the more essential keys in defeating Floyd is beating him to the punch; De La Hoya can attest to this.

    2. He has no jab; Making him more susceptible to floyd's counters.

    3. He doesn't have a body attack; Making it easier on Floyd legs and lower body movement, to just stand in the center of the pocket, while mostly implementing the upper body shoulder roll movement, to avoid his power punches.

    4. No defense; He is easy to hit.

    5. He is not a swarming/pressure fighter who likes to fight on the inside or at a very active pace, in order to smother, a boxer like Mayweather who relies on footwork and spacing. He tends to fight in bursts.

    6. He is inexperienced. He has never fought anyone near of an elite championship caliber opponent as Floyd Mayweather, Jr.

    7. He lacks mental toughness.
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    Originally posted by champion4ever
    Let me start by conceding that Victor Ortiz is the younger, stronger, bigger, more athletic and harder hitter of the two boxers. Everyone should know this; It is a given. Also, Floyd is 34 years old, turned pro in 1996 and has been inactive for 16 months. Therefore, all the intangibles are in Victor's favor. However, with that being said and if father time and ring rust has yet to catch up to Floyd Mayweather, Jr. Then these are the seven tangible reasons why this will be a difficult task for Victor Ortiz and why he won't win this fight:

    1. He doesn't throw enough punches. One of the more essential keys in defeating Floyd is beating him to the punch; De La Hoya can attest to this.

    2. He has no jab; Making him more susceptible to floyd's counters.

    3. He doesn't have a body attack; Making it easier on Floyd legs and lower body movement, to just stand in the center of the pocket, while mostly implementing the upper body shoulder roll movement, to avoid his power punches.

    4. No defense; He is easy to hit.

    5. He is not a swarming/pressure fighter who likes to fight on the inside or at a very active pace, in order to smother, a boxer like Mayweather who relies on footwork and spacing. He tends to fight in bursts.

    6. He is inexperienced. He has never fought anyone near of an elite championship caliber opponent as Floyd Mayweather, Jr.

    7. He lacks mental toughness.
    Because he is a southpaw the jab doesn't matter much. The reason a 'jab' is successful against floyd is because as a conventional fighter, your left hand is the only hand that can hit him when he uses teh shoulder roll - or else your right hand will hit him in his shoulder/lowback and you risk penalty.

    A good lead (left hand) for jabs and hooks is essential against the roll. This is why he doesn't use it against Southpaws.. because that same side he rolls on is now replaced with power straight instead of jabs and it then becomes too dangerous. Not having a jab wont effect Vic so much because he is a southpaw. The rest I agree with though

    Also, he may not be a swarmer but he's damn good inside. He does that hook into uppcut, uppercut into hook combination while pivoting very well.

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    • AllEyesOpen
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      #3
      Originally posted by intoccabile
      Because he is a southpaw the jab doesn't matter much. The reason a 'jab' is successful against floyd is because as a conventional fighter, your left hand is the only hand that can hit him when he uses teh shoulder roll - or else your right hand will hit him in his shoulder/lowback and you risk penalty.

      A good lead (left hand) for jabs and hooks is essential against the roll. This is why he doesn't use it against Southpaws.. because that same side he rolls on is now replaced with power straight instead of jabs and it then becomes too dangerous. Not having a jab wont effect Vic so much because he is a southpaw. The rest I agree with though

      Also, he may not be a swarmer but he's damn good inside. He does that hook into uppcut, uppercut into hook combination while pivoting very well.
      Agreed, his lack of a jab might leave him catching shots on the way in, but his inside game is solid and will help him land clean on Mayweather from time to time. Also DLH figured it out and Ortiz will also understand that you have to put in work to the body if you want to succeed, expect some body work that's unexpected from Ortiz.

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      • EdMon917
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        #4
        You only need 1 : He's not on Floyd's level.

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        • treason1
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          #5
          Originally posted by eddie_monster
          You only need 1 : He's not on Floyd's level.
          plus hes a quitter !!!!!

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          • dc3383
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            #6
            The reality is all of Victors powershots come from his lead hand the right han; like Winky he's a righthanded Southpaw. DeLa Hoya was good at not landing punches so if I was Ortiz I wouldn't follow that blueprint unless you want to lose.

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            • Leohappy
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              #7
              ortiz also has a little suspect chin. hit him clean, and he goes down. but i think the #7 reason is by far the strongest. floyd's style usually frustrates his opponents to no end. zab, gatti, hatton, mosley ... are examples of this.
              zab totally lost it, he went low blows and instigated a ring brawl
              gatti and hatton went berserk and were disposed of
              mosley's corner wanted to stop the fight after 10th and so on.

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              • Frank Ducketts
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                #8
                No jab. You need a jab in your arsenal to defeat Floyd.

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                • King Ghidorah
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                  #9
                  Jab jab jab jab jab jab jab jab jab jab jab jab jab jab jab!

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                  • ChowAce
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                    #10
                    Agree with all the points TS made. I don't see Victor being able to effectively pressure Floyd.

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