does andre ward punch harder than sven ottke?..

[jermainerambo]

Calzaghe - 21 title defenses (only fought 7 top ten ranked super middleweights)

Ottke - 21 title defenses

1999. 1. sven ottke 2. joe calzaghe
2000. 1. sven ottke 2. joe calzaghe
2001. 1. sven ottke 2. joe calzaghe
2002. 1. joe calzaghe 2. sven ottke
2003. 1. joe calzaghe 2. sven ottke

LOL how does that even happen when they are both in the same division? down right embarrassing!

And you're saying Ottke had more title defenses in a shorter amount of time than Calzaghe? Brilliant!

joe calzaghe beat a 31yr old guy with over 20 championship fights to become champion


when has ottke or anyone at 168 beat someone with over 20 championship fights?.............

calzaghe beat 3 guy with over 24 championship fights

joe calzaghe is The only one in history to become Undisputed super middleweight champion he has had 24 championship fights has 3 ATGs on his resume
Roy Jones Jr
Chris Eubank
Bernard Hopkins

Beat 4 Undefeated Fighters
Mark Delaney 21-0
mikkel kessler 40-0
Mario Veit 30-0
jeff lacy 21-0

joe calzaghe beat 9 world champions

Chris Eubank, was a 2 weight champion and had 24 world tltle fights

Richie Woodhall was a 2 weight champion and had 6 world tltle fights

Roy Jones Jr was a 4 weight champion and had 25 world tltle fights

Charles Brewer had 7 world tltle fights

Bernard Hopkins, the best middleweight of all time he has 25 world tltle fights

Mikkel Kessler, has 11 world tltle fights and is the reigning wbc champion soon to be wbo champion

Robin Reid had 8 world tltle fights

Byron Mitchell had 8 world tltle fights

Jeff Lacy had 7 world tltle fights



if you add all these world champions title fight up it adds up to 121 world championship title fight

joe calzaghe fought world class Former world title challengers


Sakio Bika

Tocker Pudwill

Omar Sheika

David Starie

Rick Thornberry

Evans Ashira

Juan Carlos Gimenez Ferreyra


all roads lead to joe calzaghe being the G.O.A.T he has beat people that beat people that beat

graciano rocchigiani
james toney
Kelly Pavlik
Dariusz Michalczewski
Glen Johnson
Steve Collins
Andre Dirrell
Carl Froch
Nigel Benn
Antonio Tarver
Arthur Abraham
Gerald McClellan
Julian Jackson
Frankie Liles
Chad Dawson
Jean Pascal and the list goes on and on and 46-0=46


NAME 1 FIGHTER IN HISTORY THAT WANT UNDEFEATED FOR 18 YEARS

[ИATAS]

joe calzaghe beat a 31yr old guy with over 20 championship fights to become champion

past prime

joe calzaghe is The only one in history to become Undisputed super middleweight champion

lmao, no **** it's the youngest division in the sport and barely anyone took it seriously for years. It was used as a stepping up from MW to LH.

Roy Jones Jr
Chris Eubank
Bernard Hopkins

No coincidence that all three were past prime, 1 shot to ****, 2 over the age of 40.

And he was dropped by both of the guys over the age of 40.

Legendary stuff.

Beat 4 Undefeated Fighters
Mark Delaney 21-0
mikkel kessler 40-0
Mario Veit 30-0
jeff lacy 21-0

OMG! Those guys are all time greats! Amazing how he fought Mario Veit in GERMANY but was apparently too scared of flying anywhere else and his fans use the excuse that he would never fight Ottke in Germany even though he fought there.

Two guys with 21 title defenses at the same time in the same division. Is this some sort of record in boxing? I bet it is.

[jermainerambo]

past prime




lmao, no **** it's the youngest division in the sport and barely anyone took it seriously for years. It was used as a stepping up from MW to LH.



No coincidence that all three were past prime, 1 shot to ****, 2 over the age of 40.

And he was dropped by both of the guys over the age of 40.

Legendary stuff.



OMG! Those guys are all time greats! Amazing how he fought Mario Veit in GERMANY but was apparently too scared of flying anywhere else and his fans use the excuse that he would never fight Ottke in Germany even though he fought there.

Two guys with 21 title defenses at the same time in the same division. Is this some sort of record in boxing? I bet it is.

there's always an excuse you got any more excuses for today?......

[ИATAS]

Those are all facts.

[Medved]

Paulie Mallignaggi > Sven Ottke > Andre Ward > Joe Calzaghe > Mike Tyson > BHOP > Jean Pascal > Chad Dawson > ******* > ***** > Vivian Harris.

[BattlingNelson]

Calzaghe continuosly feasted on Ottke's leftovers.

Ottke>Calzaghe>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ward

[jermainerambo]

Those are all facts.

the real facts

joe calzaghe vs chris eubank

joe calzaghe was 25yrs old had 22 fights never been 12 round only been 8 rounds once

chris eubank was 31yrs old had over 20 championship fights 45-2 only lost to 1 man by a SD

CHRIS EUBANK WAS IN HIS PRIME WHEN CALZAGHE BEAT HIM


joe calzaghe vs Bernard Hopkins

Bernard Hopkins was the world light heavyweight champion when calzaghe beat him......Hopkins went on to become world light heavyweight champion again after calzaghe retired

BERNARD HOPKINS WAS PRIME AND STILL ON TOP OF THE GAME

joe calzaghe vs roy jones

jones was in the top 5 in the world at light heavyweight he only lost to two people when calzaghe got to him.

so roy jones must have still been a good fighter to be ranked in the top 5 at light heavyweight

but there will always be haters with excuses

[CiganoBoxer]

Maybe he hits a little harder than sven ottke ...Ward hits much harder with his head tho

[CiganoBoxer]

Calzaghe continuosly feasted on Ottke's leftovers.

Ottke>Calzaghe>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ward

Now you know better than that Nelson

[Steak]

the real facts

joe calzaghe vs chris eubank

joe calzaghe was 25yrs old had 22 fights never been 12 round only been 8 rounds once

chris eubank was 31yrs old had over 20 championship fights 45-2 only lost to 1 man by a SD

CHRIS EUBANK WAS IN HIS PRIME WHEN CALZAGHE BEAT HIM


joe calzaghe vs Bernard Hopkins

Bernard Hopkins was the world light heavyweight champion when calzaghe beat him......Hopkins went on to become world light heavyweight champion again after calzaghe retired

BERNARD HOPKINS WAS PRIME AND STILL ON TOP OF THE GAME

joe calzaghe vs roy jones

jones was in the top 5 in the world at light heavyweight he only lost to two people when calzaghe got to him.

so roy jones must have still been a good fighter to be ranked in the top 5 at light heavyweight

but there will always be haters with excuses

I know youre either a mindless fan or just messing with people, but I cant help to respond anyway. There is a 0 percent chance Eubank was in his prime. he had retired after the losses to Collins, and even before those fights he was clearly sliding since he was getting gift/controversial decisions over
the completely unranked Ray Close and obscure Dan Schommer.

not to mention he took the Calzaghe fight on short notice and was killing himself to make 175lbs. He had to make 168lbs with two weeks notice.

Eubank, meanwhile, had been training to fight Mark Prince at light heavyweight, but with just two weeks to get down to 168lbs the 31-year-old chose to accept the title bout - and vowed to take the young upstart "into the trenches".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/boxing/7015378.stm


and everyone knows that a 40+ year old man is not in his prime.