Comments Thread For: Andre Ward: My Power, Toughness is Underestimated

[Rome-By-Ko]

Toughness imo is not questionable..Ward has shown to be physically tough as well as mentally tough...But Power is very questionable imo,not to say he has no power what so ever but I don't think he has much power at all..I've never seen him stun or seriously hurt another fighter..I should say at a higher level..

[Rome-By-Ko]

Not really. Dirrell was being dirty all night holding, and falling to the floor everytime Froch was in position to hit him. Say what you want but throwing yourself to the floor like Dirrell did was very dirty because more often than not he did it to avoid getting hit....guy should have got an 8 count for that crap.

Froch only went dirty because Dirrell kept giving him the back of the head and ducking low to then come up with punches, which is illegal btw.

I 100% agree bro,this is what I saw..I saw Dirrell doing any and everything he could not to take a punch..Dirrell is very talented but he fought like a real b!tch that night...

[Illdil]

Ward is a average puncher but he does have great boxing ability/Defence/movement/fight inside outside i mean he can do it all but i not sure he will KO anyone at SMW and above ..which is not bad but people love to see KO's whether its one punch or great late round KO's i mean it takes away some of the entertainment value from him but wont matter that much if he keeps doing what he does and keep winning

[The Gambler1981]

I would say yea people do under estimate his power, because they act like he can't get dudes respect. He hits hard enough to not want to be hit by him especially clean, maybe not a knock out guy but still he ain't Malinaggi either.

I think people do under estimate his toughness also, with very little reason as to why.

[JDezi4]

1)If you don't get hit how do you prove you are tough????
Abraham didn't hit him to regularly to prove his toughness

2) Ward clinches and headbutts WAY too much. I can watch and appreciate Hopkins but this guy is way too much and he never even gets warned about it.

3)All those who say he's not arrogant. Son of God. Really??????

Bold... Lol, again with this... WE ARE ALL GOD'S CHILDREN (if u believe in that stuff)

That's what he's saying when he calls himself the son of God...

[SAJ10]

Froch's doing what he needs to do to build his own confidence abd try to get into Ward's head.

What do you expect him to say - Ward dominated Kessler, I lost to him in a real tear up.

A really inexperienced and green Dirrell i struggled with, at home, and a lot of people thought I lost the fight.

Ward is the most similar in style to Dirrell accept Ward has a far higher IQ than Dirrell, Ward is also is mentally far tougher, and is now far more experienced than Dirrell was.

Of course not - Froch is going turn past situations into the most positive they could possibly be i.e. Kessler only lost to Ward because of two headbutts, even though Kessler had lost every round conclusively before the first headbutt which came in what the 6th round.

Of course Froch's going to play down Ward's power - but something to consider for Froch, Kessler was agressor the one on the front foot in the Kessler Froch fight - nothing Froch threw detered Kessler.

Sure there was ebb and flow but in the main, nothing Froch threw was hard enough to stop Kessler coming forward.

If Ward's power is so insignificant - how come Kessler didn't just walk through Ward and stop him?

How come AA didn't just walk through Ward and stop him?

Because believe me if a guy can't punch hard enough to make you think twice then you will walk through him.

Of course I'm not going to claim Ward is the harder puncher of the two but like he says, he punches hard enough. Hard enough to earn respect but he won't be knocking anybody out with one shot.

I remember Froch saying that he'd beat Kessler because if Calzaghe could get Kessler going backwards then what would he be able to do to him.

Can somebody remind me how that turned out?

[Forza]

If ward fought kessler in denmark he would have lost

[SAJ10]

Also -

Froch's path to greatness -

Pascal - recently embarressed by Hopkins 46, not proven SM, struggled to make the weight at SM b4 moving upto LHW

Taylor - MW moved up lost 4 and drew 1 of his last 8 fights including Pavlik

Dirrell - 18 fight novice struggled to S/D

AA - limited and MW moving up unproven SMW

Johnson - unproven at SMW - Came down from LH at 42 - 14 losses including loss and draw to Clinton Woods.




Pascal and Johnson LHW -

Froch has fought a guy that struggled to make the weight and lost to 46 year Hopkins, and this is Froch's best win. Johnson past it, coming down at 42 to SMW unproven SMW with 14 losses

Taylor and AA MW - Taylor well past it both MW's unproven at SMW. AA MW unproven SMW and limited.

Dirrell - SMW but unproven, never picked up a SMW World title. 18 fight novice.


So Froch hasn't beaten a proven geuine SMW, every guy he's beaten except Dirrell hasn't been fighting at their proven optimum weight.

And even Dirrell was green. Some like Johnson - not fighting at their optimum weight and older than dirt.

Froch's lost to the only genuine SMW he's fought and whilst Kessler was definitely not passed it, he was certainly shopworn.

Froch hasn't beaten one guy proven at SMW and fighting at their optimum and close to their prime.

If he thinks that's deserving of greatness then....

What he's had is a tough respectable run of fights one after the other, but when you break down the circumstances of

weight - were they fighting in their optimum divison - no

where they close to their prime - all bar Dirrell green and Taylor and Johnson past it.

Some are either past it and not fighting their main divison.

The only guy Froch's fought that doesn't have either a weight or past it or too green issue and is a proven SMW - he lost to

[Forza]

Wards path to greatness

AA - a small middleweight that was already exposed
Kessler - beat to a pulp by calzaghe 20 years ago

[SAJ10]

Ward isn't claiming greatness though - he says even if he beats Froch hes still has a lot to do.

Froch on the other hand is trying to claim it - a great with a loss to Kessler on his record.