Comments Thread For: Mayweather: Forget Money, Pacquiao Must Be Tested

[MindBat]

Manny can use the excuse that the nurse couldn't find the vein.

Then Floyd will have no choice but to fight without the testing of both fighters.

All *******s will be happy in Pacland.

[jimboinbigd]

This thread is an absolute proof of the ******ity of a particular group of people here on NSB. Their inability to comprehend a very simple equation shows a level of intelligence that is embarrassing even for an uneducated person.

They claim without any reservation that Floyd is:
1) Undefeated - 42 have tried, 42 have failed
2) Has an exceptional ring intelligence
3) The best of this generation
4) Faster
5) Bigger
6) A very accurate puncher
7) Beaten top rated fighters
8) The best defensive boxer
9) Underrated KO power
10) Much better than Cotto, Clottey, Williams and Margarito and would have beaten them easily had they fought.

On the other hand, these people consider Pac as:
1) A midget
2) One dimensional
3) Hype job
4) Fought nothing but bums
5) Fought Floyd's leftovers
6) Easy to hit
7) less accurate puncher
8) Has three losses
9) Amateurish
10) Limited ring intelligence

Based on the above claims, it would be next to impossible for Pac to win a fight against Floyd. How then can anyone explain why this group of people still demand for Pac to take Floyd's testing requirement? Yet to top it all, they justify this ridiculous demand by saying that this is to LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD!
WTF!!!

P.S.
Pac and Arum have now accepted Floyd's testing demands. Instead of a positive response, this group are now saying these:
1) Pac and Arum are lying. Koncz said differently.
2) A contract must first be delivered to Floyd for his approval even without any sign of Floyd's willingness to negotiate.
3) Pac will find another way to duck the fight.
4) Pac should have accepted ost the first time it was offered.
5) 50/50 may not be acceptable this time.
6) USADA or no fight.
7) Training in the Philippines maybe out of the question.
Etc., etc.

WTF!! WTF!! WTF!!

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They claim without any reservation that Floyd is:

1) Undefeated - 42 have tried, 42 have failed

Actually, its 41 not 42..yet.

2) Has an exceptional ring intelligence

Confirmed.

3) The best of this generation

Arguably he is.

4) Faster

all around speed...offense and defense, yep.

5) Bigger

Than Pac? He is.

6) A very accurate puncher

One of the most accurate punchers in history, if not the most accurate according to compubox.

7) Beaten top rated fighters

He's beat the #2 and #3 P4P his last two outings, an undefeated champion prior to that, a HOFer the fight before that, and the WW Champ the fight before that, and is taking on what most believe to be the best WW out there outside of Manny this fight who is coming off a huge victory.

8) The best defensive boxer

Perhaps in boxing history.


9) Underrated KO power

I don't personally think his "KO power" is underrated but his left hook and overhand right is no joke. That is why they all back off of him or give up by the mid rds.

10) Much better than Cotto, Clottey, Williams and Margarito and would have beaten them easily had they fought.

No doubt about it. Those guys are all punching bags with little speed and we all saw what Floyd did to Hatton, and Gatti who had a similar style.




On the other hand, these people consider Pac as:

1) A midget

He is short and will give up a reach advantage to Floyd.

2) One dimensional

He's an exciting brawler with no jab or D to speak of...but I wouldn't say one dimensional...but certainly not as skilled and schooled as Floyd across the board.


3) Hype job

Yeah, considering his list of opponents recently coupled with all of the accolades, visits with the President, catchweights, ducking of Mosley before Floyd exposed him, his ducking of Mayweather and the drug testing, yeah...until he steps up and takes the tests and fights Floyd he'll seem like a hype job to many of us. Great fighter and exciting fighter...but not worthy of where some people place him.

4) Fought nothing but bums

From the Oscar fight till now, yeah, that is pretty much what has been going down. All of those fighters were either recently beaten, at the end of the line, fighting at catchweights, or already exposed and blown out by Floyd.


5) Fought Floyd's leftovers

Oscar, Hatton, Mosley, and now Marquez. The two other fights recently were tomato cans (Clottey) and cheaters who were KO'd in recent fights.


6) Easy to hit

You see his face after the Cotto and Clottey fight...and remember him running from Margarito after that body blow?


7) less accurate puncher

Statistically factual.


8) Has three losses
and two draws and has been KO'd.

9) Amateurish

Don't know who has said this.


10) Limited ring intelligence

Don't know who has said this either...but he doesn't seem like the brightest person whether in the ring or out of it based on reports and his interviews.

Based on the above claims, it would be next to impossible for Pac to win a fight against Floyd.

I totally agree.

How then can anyone explain why this group of people still demand for Pac to take Floyd's testing requirement?

The same reason why the NFL, the Olympics, MLB, and other sports test. It's to ensure all things are equal and everything is on the up n up. No questions, no unfair advantages, no BS. The better question is why is Manny so reluctant and full of so many excuses to avoid the same testing Mayweather is willing to undergo? Mayweather agreed to ring size, gloves, weight penalties, venue, money, everything...but he had this one stipulation, and he's the unreasonable one?


Yet to top it all, they justify this ridiculous demand by saying that this is to LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD!
WTF!!!

The only way it levels the playing field is if Manny is using PEDS and with the testing, he can't. Don't you think the playing field should be level? Or do you think Pac should be able to do whatever he wants and not face this kind of thing even though his opponent and others like Mosley and Ortiz and Khan and others are willing to do so. That doesn't seem fishy to you? Especially when he stands to make 50 million dollars to do so?



P.S.
Pac and Arum have now accepted Floyd's testing demands. Instead of a positive response, this group are now saying these:

If they have agreed to the demands then why did Manny just say he doesn't need Mayweather and why did Arum make up this goofy BS about May Sr. and no USADA and everything else?


1) Pac and Arum are lying. Koncz said differently.

Why all the different stories? We presently have three stories: 1. Pac doesn't need Mayweather. 2. Kontz saying something about a 3 day cutoff. 3. Arum not willing to do USADA testing.


2) A contract must first be delivered to Floyd for his approval even without any sign of Floyd's willingness to negotiate.

Huh? Negotiate on what? The testing? Floyd has been real clear and it hasnt been a sticking point with Mosley and Ortiz. Why such a big deal for Manny?


3) Pac will find another way to duck the fight.

With Floyd consistently calling him out and telling the world Manny is next, if Manny doesn't step up after the Marquez fight, then it's pretty obvious. It's time and neither Floyd nor Manny have anyone else to fight at 147 that could generate half the ppvs they would generate. "Manny, yes, you're next" Manny..."I don't need Mayweather."


Anyway, Im done. This is too easy...

[maguirre]

This thread is an absolute proof of the ******ity of a particular group of people here on NSB. Their inability to comprehend a very simple equation shows a level of intelligence that is embarrassing even for an uneducated person.

They claim without any reservation that Floyd is:
1) Undefeated - 42 have tried, 42 have failed
2) Has an exceptional ring intelligence
3) The best of this generation
4) Faster
5) Bigger
6) A very accurate puncher
7) Beaten top rated fighters
8) The best defensive boxer
9) Underrated KO power
10) Much better than Cotto, Clottey, Williams and Margarito and would have beaten them easily had they fought.

On the other hand, these people consider Pac as:
1) A midget
2) One dimensional
3) Hype job
4) Fought nothing but bums
5) Fought Floyd's leftovers
6) Easy to hit
7) less accurate puncher
8) Has three losses
9) Amateurish
10) Limited ring intelligence

Based on the above claims, it would be next to impossible for Pac to win a fight against Floyd. How then can anyone explain why this group of people still demand for Pac to take Floyd's testing requirement? Yet to top it all, they justify this ridiculous demand by saying that this is to LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD!
WTF!!!

P.S.
Pac and Arum have now accepted Floyd's testing demands. Instead of a positive response, this group are now saying these:
1) Pac and Arum are lying. Koncz said differently.
2) A contract must first be delivered to Floyd for his approval even without any sign of Floyd's willingness to negotiate.
3) Pac will find another way to duck the fight.
4) Pac should have accepted ost the first time it was offered.
5) 50/50 may not be acceptable this time.
6) USADA or no fight.
7) Training in the Philippines maybe out of the question.
Etc., etc.

WTF!! WTF!! WTF!!

Like I've always said, Floyd fanboys are like silly little kids who want all the toys.

That's quite a long list of toys you've posted here, homie. ;-)

Any toy you have for *******s?

;-)

[tatangb45]

Hey jimboindbigd, this is for you and all your ****** associates.

You have confirmed that you believe that all the hogwash I posted are true, Pac is nothing compared to Floyd. Yet you still say that Pac has to take Floyd's test. How will testing for peds level the playing field when according to you and the rest of your brainless associates, Pac has not shown any redeeming quality in any of his past fights that can make him win against Floyd?

You all say that Pac is a hype job, etc., etc., etc.. You also say that he is a peds user. Since you guys insist that this peds user has done nothing significant to beat Floyd, why is there a need for testing to "LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD"? What is there to level?

Are you guys that ****** not to see the absurdity of your position?

[Integrital]

Hi guys.

What's going on in this here thread?

[ALG United]

Fitting that school is starting back up all across America...and that my friend, is exactly where I'm about to take you. Please follow along...



They claim without any reservation that Floyd is:

1) Undefeated - 42 have tried, 42 have failed

Actually, its 41 not 42..yet.

2) Has an exceptional ring intelligence

Confirmed.

3) The best of this generation

Arguably he is.

4) Faster

all around speed...offense and defense, yep.

5) Bigger

Than Pac? He is.

6) A very accurate puncher

One of the most accurate punchers in history, if not the most accurate according to compubox.

7) Beaten top rated fighters

He's beat the #2 and #3 P4P his last two outings, an undefeated champion prior to that, a HOFer the fight before that, and the WW Champ the fight before that, and is taking on what most believe to be the best WW out there outside of Manny this fight who is coming off a huge victory.

8) The best defensive boxer

Perhaps in boxing history.


9) Underrated KO power

I don't personally think his "KO power" is underrated but his left hook and overhand right is no joke. That is why they all back off of him or give up by the mid rds.

10) Much better than Cotto, Clottey, Williams and Margarito and would have beaten them easily had they fought.

No doubt about it. Those guys are all punching bags with little speed and we all saw what Floyd did to Hatton, and Gatti who had a similar style.




On the other hand, these people consider Pac as:

1) A midget

He is short and will give up a reach advantage to Floyd.

2) One dimensional

He's an exciting brawler with no jab or D to speak of...but I wouldn't say one dimensional...but certainly not as skilled and schooled as Floyd across the board.


3) Hype job

Yeah, considering his list of opponents recently coupled with all of the accolades, visits with the President, catchweights, ducking of Mosley before Floyd exposed him, his ducking of Mayweather and the drug testing, yeah...until he steps up and takes the tests and fights Floyd he'll seem like a hype job to many of us. Great fighter and exciting fighter...but not worthy of where some people place him.

4) Fought nothing but bums

From the Oscar fight till now, yeah, that is pretty much what has been going down. All of those fighters were either recently beaten, at the end of the line, fighting at catchweights, or already exposed and blown out by Floyd.


5) Fought Floyd's leftovers

Oscar, Hatton, Mosley, and now Marquez. The two other fights recently were tomato cans (Clottey) and cheaters who were KO'd in recent fights.


6) Easy to hit

You see his face after the Cotto and Clottey fight...and remember him running from Margarito after that body blow?


7) less accurate puncher

Statistically factual.


8) Has three losses
and two draws and has been KO'd.

9) Amateurish

Don't know who has said this.


10) Limited ring intelligence

Don't know who has said this either...but he doesn't seem like the brightest person whether in the ring or out of it based on reports and his interviews.

Based on the above claims, it would be next to impossible for Pac to win a fight against Floyd.

I totally agree.

How then can anyone explain why this group of people still demand for Pac to take Floyd's testing requirement?

The same reason why the NFL, the Olympics, MLB, and other sports test. It's to ensure all things are equal and everything is on the up n up. No questions, no unfair advantages, no BS. The better question is why is Manny so reluctant and full of so many excuses to avoid the same testing Mayweather is willing to undergo? Mayweather agreed to ring size, gloves, weight penalties, venue, money, everything...but he had this one stipulation, and he's the unreasonable one?


Yet to top it all, they justify this ridiculous demand by saying that this is to LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD!
WTF!!!

The only way it levels the playing field is if Manny is using PEDS and with the testing, he can't. Don't you think the playing field should be level? Or do you think Pac should be able to do whatever he wants and not face this kind of thing even though his opponent and others like Mosley and Ortiz and Khan and others are willing to do so. That doesn't seem fishy to you? Especially when he stands to make 50 million dollars to do so?



P.S.
Pac and Arum have now accepted Floyd's testing demands. Instead of a positive response, this group are now saying these:

If they have agreed to the demands then why did Manny just say he doesn't need Mayweather and why did Arum make up this goofy BS about May Sr. and no USADA and everything else?


1) Pac and Arum are lying. Koncz said differently.

Why all the different stories? We presently have three stories: 1. Pac doesn't need Mayweather. 2. Kontz saying something about a 3 day cutoff. 3. Arum not willing to do USADA testing.


2) A contract must first be delivered to Floyd for his approval even without any sign of Floyd's willingness to negotiate.

Huh? Negotiate on what? The testing? Floyd has been real clear and it hasnt been a sticking point with Mosley and Ortiz. Why such a big deal for Manny?


3) Pac will find another way to duck the fight.

With Floyd consistently calling him out and telling the world Manny is next, if Manny doesn't step up after the Marquez fight, then it's pretty obvious. It's time and neither Floyd nor Manny have anyone else to fight at 147 that could generate half the ppvs they would generate. "Manny, yes, you're next" Manny..."I don't need Mayweather."


Anyway, Im done. This is too easy...

You are ****** if you didn't get his LOGIC... He gave all the advantages that Floyd has in terms of skills and physical attributes as compared to Manny's... Floyd has 110% higher advantages in ALL aspects as that with Manny, so as per se, you *****s do claim up to this day even after years under Roach, Manny is still extremely imperior while Floyd is the most superior in all aspects between the two.... Even after Manny defeated Oscar, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey and Mosley, and as you claim with the use of the powerful A-Side-Meth, Manny is still not in the same level that of the great Floyd jr.... So that being said, so what is this unfair advantage that Manny has that Floyd and all the *****S in the world are trying to level off with OST???!!! WTF *****???!!!

[Slip Stream]

True. But you have to admit that this stringent testing demand started with Pac. Question is what did Floyd and you guys see that makes this OST thing absolutely essential in this fight? As of now we haven't heard any thing that links Pac to peds. Have you? What did Floyd and his fans see, actually? Bearing in mind that you guys have been repeating this "Pac is just an overrated boxer" mantra for the last several months now.

:-|

Floyd's been pretty clear about what he believes; he doesn't think it's natural to become as good as Manny has at the point in his career he was at. He felt Manny was merely ordinary but at a certain point began performing uncharacteristically well. What's made me su****ious aren't the Mayweather insinuations and accusations but the behavior of the Pacquiao Camp as it relates to OST demand. I could see the fight being delayed based on haggling over money, or weight, but blood testing? Really?!? With the amount of money that's involved, you mean a simple blood test is standing in the way of the number one fight of all time?

I don't believe Manny is overrated, I just think his record and training practices are in need further scrutiny. The praise he recieves isn't proportional to his accomplishments in my humble opinion. Everyone knows Mayweather is the best boxer on the planet and has been for some time, but because he lacks a sufficient "humility" in the eyes of some they seek to discredit him.

[tatangb45]

Floyd's been pretty clear about what he believes; he doesn't think it's natural to become as good as Manny has at the point in his career he was at. He felt Manny was merely ordinary but at a certain point began performing uncharacteristically well. What's made me su****ious aren't the Mayweather insinuations and accusations but the behavior of the Pacquiao Camp as it relates to OST demand. I could see the fight being delayed based on haggling over money, or weight, but blood testing? Really?!? With the amount of money that's involved, you mean a simple blood test is standing in the way of the number one fight of all time?

I don't believe Manny is overrated, I just think his record and training practices are in need further scrutiny. The praise he recieves isn't proportional to his accomplishments in my humble opinion. Everyone knows Mayweather is the best boxer on the planet and has been for some time, but because he lacks a sufficient "humility" in the eyes of some they seek to discredit him.

Has Floyd ever admitted that Pac is that good?
All that we've heard from him is how easy Pac would be. That "Poochiao" is one dimentional, fought his damaged leftovers, etc., etc..

Do you have any links where Floyd "made it pretty clear about what he believes" concerning Pac's unnatural development from "ordinary" to "uncharacteristically well"?

If you have any proof of this, then all the dissing of Pac's skills by Floyd and his fans, becomes a total contradiction. If Floyd himself admits to Pac's performance as "uncharateristically well", then it follows that his demand for ost is founded on his fear of losing to Pac. Right? All that b.s. about Pac having no chance against Floyd simply goes down the drain.

This fear of losing could also give credence to a common belief that he is scared of Pac. And being scared could explain his continued reluctance to commit to fight, which eventually led to people now calling him a COWARD.

[joelab75]

you are ****** if you didn't get his logic... He gave all the advantages that floyd has in terms of skills and physical attributes as compared to manny's... Floyd has 110% higher advantages in all aspects as that with manny, so as per se, you *****s do claim up to this day even after years under roach, manny is still extremely imperior while floyd is the most superior in all aspects between the two.... Even after manny defeated oscar, hatton, cotto, clottey and mosley, and as you claim with the use of the powerful a-side-meth, manny is still not in the same level that of the great floyd jr.... So that being said, so what is this unfair advantage that manny has that floyd and all the *****s in the world are trying to level off with ost???!!! Wtf *****???!!!

^^^^^^^ this..

[ronniejunior]

Floyd's been pretty clear about what he believes; he doesn't think it's natural to become as good as Manny has at the point in his career he was at. He felt Manny was merely ordinary but at a certain point began performing uncharacteristically well. What's made me su****ious aren't the Mayweather insinuations and accusations but the behavior of the Pacquiao Camp as it relates to OST demand. I could see the fight being delayed based on haggling over money, or weight, but blood testing? Really?!? With the amount of money that's involved, you mean a simple blood test is standing in the way of the number one fight of all time?

I don't believe Manny is overrated, I just think his record and training practices are in need further scrutiny. The praise he recieves isn't proportional to his accomplishments in my humble opinion. Everyone knows Mayweather is the best boxer on the planet and has been for some time, but because he lacks a sufficient "humility" in the eyes of some they seek to discredit him.

Well said...