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Originally posted by Cgarcia View PostThat's why I'm telling you that you don't make any sense. You want to have it both ways. You've been describing a fighter that is way overrated. You don't need OST to an overrated boxer. It's making you guys look silly. If you say, yeah that's idiotic of Floyd to ask for test when he can beat the guy without it, then you're at least on you own with your own views, not with Floyd's. Know what I mean? As long as you defend this OST thing, denigrating pac and his opponents won't make any sense.
Think about it, bro, before posting.
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Originally posted by GRUSTLER View PostSo this is the excuse you Pac fans are using for cosigning Pac ducking Floyd because of random blood testing? Why can't Manny Pacquiao (overrated or underrated) just take a blood test? It's utterly ridiculous that this guy (Pac) who is supposed to be so good, can't give blood at his level of athleticism in the game. Whenever it came to Pac fighting someone who looked dominating in their fight prior it was always an excuse on why he should not fight them. Even if I think Floyd Would wipe the floor with Pac, don't make it legit that Pac doesn't have to give blood? That's a cop out excuse homie.
Demanding OST is an admission that the guy is too good to be real. Completely opposite to what you've been saying about Pac, ie, amateurish, fought nothing but bums.
Please, think hard before posting.
;-)Last edited by maguirre; 08-19-2011, 04:36 PM.
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Originally posted by Cgarcia View PostThat's why I'm telling you that you don't make any sense. You want to have it both ways. You've been describing a fighter that is way overrated. You don't need OST to an overrated boxer. It's making you guys look silly. If you say, yeah that's idiotic of Floyd to ask for test when he can beat the guy without it, then you're at least on you own with your own views, not with Floyd's. Know what I mean? As long as you defend this OST thing, denigrating pac and his opponents won't make any sense.
Think about it, bro, before posting.
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Pacquiao nor anyone in Pac's camp ever said: "OST is out of the question. We will not take any extra special tests". They did not say that.
The fact is random drug testing was already in the contract. All Manny had to do (If he had nothing to hide) is sign the contract, take the test, and fight.
OR
Say: "I don't need to take any extra special tests, so no fight."
It's been that simple. He had 2 choices to make. He (his handlers) chose
to put up a wall of roadblocks for almost 3 years.
But I guess you already knew that.
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Originally posted by Cgarcia View PostDemanding OST is an admission that the guy is too good to be real. Completely opposite to what you've been saying about Pac, ie, amateurish, fought nothing but bums.
Please, think hard before posting.
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OST is a admission that people cheat at the sport, and not just this one but at many sports. This is the age we live in, people cheat, and to somehow argue that simply because he wants Manny to take one that it's completely unreasonable is live with one's head buried in the sand.
Also, I think several posters are being deliberately obtuse as to facts and situations, all to stir up pointless arguments that simple reason could easily clear up.
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Originally posted by Slip Stream View PostHuh?!? Floyd has never said anywhere that "Manny is too good to be real," if you have a link to the video or statement that would be helpful. I've seen plenty of footage where Floyd has said he's a great fighter and future hall of famer, but not too good to be real. I think your substituting your own point of view for the facts.
OST is a admission that people cheat at the sport, and not just this one but at many sports. This is the age we live in, people cheat, and to somehow argue that simply because he wants Manny to take one that it's completely unreasonable is live with one's head buried in the sand.
Also, I think several posters are being deliberately obtuse as to facts and situations, all to stir up pointless arguments that simple reason could easily clear up.
It's really very simple. Just act like an adult and not a kid who wants all the toys he can grab. In short, just drop one or the other. You can't have both. Either you say Pac is really good and needs to be tested, or Pac is just an amateurish fighter who fought nothing but bums. OST is really unnecessary.
;-)Last edited by maguirre; 08-19-2011, 05:39 PM.
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Originally posted by Cgarcia View PostDude, you'll never see the inconsistency if you're a fan who is hell bent on defending your hero. Just like those politicians who are hell-bent in defending their party even at the cost of ruining their country to win elections. Again, you don't want extra test if you think Pacman is just an overrated boxer who fought nothing but inferior opponents. It doesn't jibe, it's out of sync, it's a ****ed up logic.
It's really very simple. Just act like an adult and not a kid who wants all the toys he can grab. In short, just drop one or the other. You can't have both. Either you say Pac is really good and needs to be tested, or Pac is just an amateurish fighter who fought nothing but bums. OST is really unnecessary.
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Please tell me this isnt someone being serious...
Youre the biggest pac nuthugging troll around. Been putting in over time lately too...
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This test takes even more significant because of the way Team Paq has lied, duck and accuse everyone over this testing saga, its like they really have something to hide, It makes it even more compelling in making sure he gets tested.
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Originally posted by Cgarcia View PostDude, you'll never see the inconsistency if you're a fan who is hell bent on defending your hero. Just like those politicians who are hell-bent in defending their party even at the cost of ruining their country to win elections. Again, you don't want extra test if you think Pacman is just an overrated boxer who fought nothing but inferior opponents. It doesn't jibe, it's out of sync, it's a ****ed up logic.
It's really very simple. Just act like an adult and not a kid who wants all the toys he can grab. In short, just drop one or the other. You can't have both. Either you say Pac is really good and needs to be tested, or Pac is just an amateurish fighter who fought nothing but bums. OST is really unnecessary.
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For the good of the fighters and the sport no one should be above testing and everyone should test.
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Originally posted by Slip Stream View PostSorry bro, your logic still hasn't penetrated my thinking and very reasonable brain. Who's saying what to whom in your statement? Are you saying Mayweather said this, or because fans said it Mayweather shouldn't demand OST? Is Manny above being tested in your book and the mere insinuation that he is on something drives you nuts? Huh? Huh? Huh?
For the good of the fighters and the sport no one should be above testing and everyone should test.
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