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  • Heeb
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    #11
    If the fighter who got dropped otherwise completely dominated the round, it's 10-9....otherwise it's 10-8

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    • edgarg
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      #12
      Originally posted by tennis-legend
      go figure

      ive been watcing boxing 25 years and i never knew it had to be 10 for one guy
      That's OK we understand. Judging from most of your other comments it was fairly obvious that there was a lot you didn't know.........but most of the posters on this site are in the same league. At least you are honest and open about yor comments.

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        #13
        Originally posted by edgarg
        The Mosley scoring was because the judges KNEW that there was NO knockdown and scored accordingly.
        Uh, no. Judges can't do that, they have to score accordingly to what the ref upholds. If it was clearly a fluke KD but the ref ruled it as one, the judges HAVE to factor that in. A judge can't use their own discretion like that otherwise they wouldn't have their job for much longer if they did.

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        • AllEyesOpen
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          #14
          Originally posted by tennis-legend
          go figure

          ive been watcing boxing 25 years and i never knew it had to be 10 for one guy
          I was confused by this rule myself, but it's no big deal considering that even the HBO commentators have been wrong about how the 10 point must system works, they've had to correct themselves on it before. don't remember exactly which fight it was but i now they pointed it out.

          If i recall correctly i've even seen ledderman(sp?) scorecards that had 9-9 rounds on it.
          Last edited by AllEyesOpen; 08-17-2011, 12:32 PM.

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            #15
            Originally posted by tennis-legend
            go figure

            ive been watcing boxing 25 years and i never knew it had to be 10 for one guy


            Originally posted by tennis-legend
            go figure

            ive been watcing boxing 2.5 years and i never knew it had to be 10 for one guy

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            • D4thincarnation
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              #16
              Originally posted by edgarg
              The Mosley scoring was because the judges KNEW that there was NO knockdown and scored accordingly.

              As for the TOPIC question. a drawn rd ia 10-10. if fighter A wins the rd it is 10-9, and if fighter A is KD but otherwise still wins the rd it is 9-9. If fighter B both wins the rd and gets th KD is is a 10-8 rd.

              These are the rules. BUT........most frequently, judges, going by custom give the rd 10-8 to the fighter who scores the KD even though he may otherwise have lost the rd.

              Unless the fighter who has suffered the KD is overwhelmingly winning, but just happens to walk into a KD ......this would cause "most" judges to score it 9-9
              The judges have to scored accordingly to the refs calls.
              You can't have a 9-9 round unless points are deducted.
              Pacquiao won the round despite the KD called by the ref because he was dominating the round before the KD and after the KD.

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              • D4thincarnation
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                #17
                Originally posted by AllEyesOpen
                I was confused by this rule myself, but it's no big deal considering that even the HBO commentators have been wrong about how the 10 point must system works, they've had to correct themselves on it before. don't remember exactly which fight it was but i now they pointed it out.

                If i recall correctly i've even seen ledderman(sp?) scorecards that had 9-9 rounds on it.
                Lederman knows his stuff, it was probably down to point deductions for fouls.

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                • edgarg
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by edgarg
                  The Mosley scoring was because the judges KNEW that there was NO knockdown and scored accordingly.

                  As for the TOPIC question. a drawn rd ia 10-10. if fighter A wins the rd it is 10-9, and if fighter A is KD but otherwise still wins the rd it is 9-9. If fighter B both wins the rd and gets th KD is is a 10-8 rd.

                  These are the rules. BUT........most frequently, judges, going by custom give the rd 10-8 to the fighter who scores the KD even though he may otherwise have lost the rd.

                  Unless the fighter who has suffered the KD is overwhelmingly winning, but just happens to walk into a KD ......this would cause "most" judges to score it 9-9
                  To clarify matters further, which I should have done, a KD costs a point, a penalised foul cost's a point. I have known fighters to be penalised 2 points for a foul. He also loses a point if he has lost the rd. That's why a 10-8 rd is because of both the lost rd and the KD.

                  In the first MannyP.-Marquez fight, it was a draw ONLY because the judge who scored the fight a draw, had "mistakenly" scored the first rd (in which MannyP had KD Marquez 3 times as well as winning the rd) 10-7 instead of 10-6 as the rules required. A lost point for each Kng is 3 pts plus 1 point for the won rd making it a 4 pt loss which should have made the rd 10-6 for MannyP.

                  I have never understood why the Boxing Commission did not change the ref's score card to reflect that extra point. MannyP actually won that forst (drawn) fight.

                  I have seen comments saying that a judge does not have to score a 4 point loss for a rd with 3 KD's, but have never seen the rule allowing this. So I don't believe it.

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                  • AllEyesOpen
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                    Lederman knows his stuff, it was probably down to point deductions for fouls.
                    Don't recall, might have been. I do recall the HBO commentators remarking about saying something along the lines of someone having to work to make it a 9-9 round after a kd in a previous broadcast, which was wrong based on the 10 point system, it would have to be a 10-10 round.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by AllEyesOpen
                      Don't recall, might have been. I do recall the HBO commentators remarking about saying something along the lines of someone having to work to make it a 9-9 round after a kd in a previous broadcast, which was wrong based on the 10 point system.
                      Lampley and Merchant don't know their stuff, reguarding the rules, Lederman has had to correct them a few times.

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