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  • tredh
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    #71
    Originally posted by Big Dunn
    Dude said he reached out to all the old players for bail and financial help and they all turned their backs on him so he said *** it i'm telling.

    They may have been wrong for that but snitching is always a b!tch move!! That **** is just unacceptable. If those players helped dude that would really make the program look guilty. IMO what he did for those players back then was quid pro quo. He got more access to the program and players than a regular person would and for that access the players got paid and gifts. Why start
    b!itching now? They didn't make him run a ponzi scheme. There NO reason for dude to be snitching!!

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      #72
      Originally posted by tredh
      They may have been wrong for that but snitching is always a b!tch move!! That **** is just unacceptable. If those players helped dude that would really make the program look guilty. IMO what he did for those players back then was quid pro quo. He got more access to the program and players than a regular person would and for that access the players got paid and gifts. Why start
      b!itching now? They didn't make him run a ponzi scheme. There NO reason for dude to be snitching!!
      But dude was only in a position to help them BECAUSE of the ponzi scheme. And dude didn't snitch, he was questioned by the feds. This was collateral info that came out. Once out, he got further questioned and the feds made it clear, lie and we find out and no deal.

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        #73
        Originally posted by tredh
        Thanks!

        I am sick to my stomach right now about that story and you know its only gonna get worse. What I can't understand is why is dude snitching about that. What he did for those players at THE U has nothing to do with why he got 20 years for running a ponzi scheme so why snitch? Sucka move by dude and just as we starting to get things going possibly in the right direction we about to go on serious probation again. I know one thing I will still wear all my U gear proudly no matter what happens!!! I am trying to get tickets to the Miami vs Univ. of Maryland game since that is in my area.
        Yea man, its crazy. I'm a FSU diehard fan, but I'm not going to bash the U right now because I think the sanctions for what occurred are going to be heavy!

        Originally posted by Big Dunn
        Dude said he reached out to all the old players for bail and financial help and they all turned their backs on him so he said *** it i'm telling.
        Right, that's just what happened. And this type of stuff goes on at ALL the big schools man. Same thing with Bush. Soon as he didn't hire buddy that funneled him that bread as his agent, everything hit the fan.

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          #74
          Originally posted by CONQUERING
          Yea man, its crazy. I'm a FSU diehard fan, but I'm not going to bash the U right now because I think the sanctions for what occurred are going to be heavy!



          Right, that's just what happened. And this type of stuff goes on at ALL the big schools man. Same thing with Bush. Soon as he didn't hire buddy that funneled him that bread as his agent, everything hit the fan.
          Reggie Bush was a lying piece of **** that took dough and didn't pay it back like Chris Webber did (and ccwebb is my dude but that was ab!tch move). From reading the article, dude was down on his luck and went to his "family" and a lotta dudes acted like they didn't know him or had helped him.

          Forgetting the people who hepled you when you were down and out is FAR WORSE than snitching in my book.

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            #75
            Originally posted by Big Dunn
            Reggie Bush was a lying piece of **** that took dough and didn't pay it back like Chris Webber did (and ccwebb is my dude but that was ab!tch move). From reading the article, dude was down on his luck and went to his "family" and a lotta dudes acted like they didn't know him or had helped him.

            Forgetting the people who hepled you when you were down and out is FAR WORSE than snitching in my book.
            Yea man, that's crazy. We coach a WR that was the MVP down at the Miami Hurricanes camp last year and he's being recruited by them, but I just talked to him about this and I doubt he looks at them anymore. And he really like it down there.

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            • tredh
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              #76
              Originally posted by Big Dunn
              But dude was only in a position to help them BECAUSE of the ponzi scheme. And dude didn't snitch, he was questioned by the feds. This was collateral info that came out. Once out, he got further questioned and the feds made it clear, lie and we find out and no deal.
              Dude he snitching to get a deal for running the ponzi scheme. So if you commit a crime and get caught and Feds say tell me everything about everything and you tell them about crimes with people that have nothing to do with why you locked up that is not snitching to you? If not what do you call it? Cause if you ask everybody I know you will be call a snitch, rat, b!tch and many more things.

              I don't know where you from where that is not considered snitching!!!!

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                #77
                id say floyd shades it.but im not taking anything away from b-hop.the 2 of them know their stuff in the ring

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by tredh
                  Dude he snitching to get a deal for running the ponzi scheme. So if you commit a crime and get caught and Feds say tell me everything about everything and you tell them about crimes with people that have nothing to do with why you locked up that is not snitching to you? If not what do you call it? Cause if you ask everybody I know you will be call a snitch, rat, b!tch and many more things.

                  I don't know where you from where that is not considered snitching!!!!
                  But they did. he used the money from the ponzi scheme to become a booster. I know what u are saying but them dudes turned their back on him. If they bail him out he likely doesn't talk.

                  He didn't talk, reached out to cats he helped out, they turned his back on them. He isn't a snitch in my book they are fake ass friends who don't get the same as your true friends.

                  See my point?

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                  • tredh
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Big Dunn
                    But they did. he used the money from the ponzi scheme to become a booster. I know what u are saying but them dudes turned their back on him. If they bail him out he likely doesn't talk.

                    He didn't talk, reached out to cats he helped out, they turned his back on them. He isn't a snitch in my book they are fake ass friends who don't get the same as your true friends.

                    See my point?
                    In first post about this topic I said they were wrong for that never denied that. But that still doesn't excuse him from snitching. Also he chose to do that. He said himself that he wanted to take the place of "Uncle Luke". So this is something that he wanted to do not something that he was seeked out and asked to do. So it was his decison by choice not by force so lay in that bed that you made and go to your grave knowing that you was a good person and those people were no good. By snitching because they didn't help him IMO he puts himself on same level of those people.

                    Also who is to say that they actually viewed dude as they friend? Cause truth be told if they couldn't play sports he wouldn't have gave a **** about them and they know that. So a person is not really your friend in they only around you because of what you can do for them.

                    It doesn't matter if at first you didn't tell cause you waiting to see if somebody is gonna help you. All that matters is that you told whether is right off the bat or 20 years down the line its still snitching
                    Last edited by tredh; 08-17-2011, 10:17 AM.

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                    • kbpoetree
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Cupocity303
                      Who has the greater "Ring IQ"?
                      lmao...things havnt changed here...still hardly anyone knows boxing...yes...Mayweather is undefeated...but he is far more athleticly talented then Hopkins....Hopkins is prob one of or the smartest ringman in the game...he plays all aspects of the sport..he is a genius wich is y he is still winning at his age against pretty good fighters

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