49 current fighters that are better than Victor Ortiz P4P

[D4thincarnation]

At 147, after Pacquaio and maybe Khan, he is the biggest threat to Floyd.

That just proves how weak 147lbs has become.

Hopefully the top light-welters will move up, see how Jones and Brook develop.

When you look at the talent in the other divisions it is clear that p4p the fighters that I listed are better than Ortiz.

[winky's right]

So out of 49, you have 1 active welterweight, that means he's the 2nd best active welterweight according to you. Yes or No?

OP got ****d in his own thread. lmfao

[Kagami Taiga]

OP got ****d in his own thread. lmfao

i like the user name and the avatar. big winky fan! wish i would have thought of that one...

[D4thincarnation]

The thread is about fighters better than Ortiz p4p.

[D4thincarnation]

who cares???floyds a ww and fighting at ww..the #2 ww and wbc champion......whats your point??we couldve done this when manny fought margo and shane and clottey as well

This not about Floyd.

It is about Ortiz being outside the p4p top 50, showing how Ortiz is overrated by some and how weak the welterweight division has become.

[KingTito]

No..........

[hebi]

That just proves how weak 147lbs has become.

Hopefully the top light-welters will move up, see how Jones and Brook develop.

When you look at the talent in the other divisions it is clear that p4p the fighters that I listed are better than Ortiz.

I'd say less than half of the fighters you listed are CLEARLY better p4p than Ortiz.

147 isn't the best division, but I'd say Ortiz was/is better than most in the packed 140 division. He is without a doubt the most dangerous guy at 147 besides Pacquaio for Floyd. He is easily one of the top 5 guys counting 140 division, with the most dangerous tools against Floyd of anyone.

I know you're saying this isn't about Floyd, but it obviously is. P4p ranking aside, Ortiz is a top notch opponent for Floyd, and I cannot take criticism of that very seriously.

[D4thincarnation]

I'd say less than half of the fighters you listed are CLEARLY better p4p than Ortiz.

147 isn't the best division, but I'd say Ortiz was/is better than most in the packed 140 division. He is without a doubt the most dangerous guy at 147 besides Pacquaio for Floyd. He is easily one of the top 5 guys counting 140 division, with the most dangerous tools against Floyd of anyone.

I know you're saying this isn't about Floyd, but it obviously is. P4p ranking aside, Ortiz is a top notch opponent for Floyd, and I cannot take criticism of that very seriously.

Top notch?

Is he in Pacquiao's class?
Martinez class?
What about a 2007/08 Cotto or Marg or Williams
Or Khan's class.

Ortiz is a good boxer, not top notch.

Ricky Hatton was a bigger threat to Floyd that Ortiz is now.

[Mr Randy Watson]

i feel embarrassed for the TS.....

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

What a joke.

Now name us 49 WW's better than Ortiz. Genius.