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  • Barry Halls
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    #11
    One of the non-mentioned is Ibeabuchi. He hit like a truck basically.

    Not sure if i think Tyson had a bigger punch than Wlad. I think one would easily be fooled because wlad is so tentative.

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    • Pin Galarga
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      #12
      Earnie Shavers is the hardest hitter in Boxing history, Tyson had more snap and speed.

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      • boxingking500
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        #13
        i am willing to say wlad has more "RAW POWER" then tyson... but that tyson was more explosive with his power

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        • nomadman
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          #14
          No, but his power of late gets horribly underrated by a lot of boxing fans, perhaps as a backlash against his rabid delusional fanboys from back in the day. He had phenomenal one punch knockout and knockdown ability, more than Foreman, more than Shavers (who only has one bonafide one punch KO in his career yet is somehow always brought up as an hellacious KO puncher), and certainly more than someone like Max Baer. This isn't an opinion that can't be backed up without a large body of evidence. The fights are there for all to see.

          Did he have more brute strength than someone like Foreman? No, I don't think so. But he had the speed, explosiveness, technique and squat muscular body that, when everything came together, was capable of delivering thunderous blows that could break bones and knock fighters stone cold. When evaluating power punchers you've got to look at the whole package, not just one aspect. Foreman could deliver more consistently damaging shots throughout the course of a fight, but I've never seen him land as many devastating single shots as Tyson.

          As examples, look at the Golota or Botha fights and see how Tyson's just drops them with one punch, knocking Botha loopy and forcing Golota to quit, breaking his cheekbone and damaging his vertebrae in the process. If that isn't one punch power I don't know what is. And whilst both Botha and Golota were stopped in similar fashion by Lewis, it took him multiple punches to achieve. And this is Lennox Lewis we're talking about, an extremely hard puncher in his own right.

          Tyson is also the only man to ever knock out Holmes, and he started it with a very similar punch to the one Shavers landed. Yet whilst the Shavers knockdown is lauded and endlessly brought up as evidence of what a sick puncher he was, the Tyson knockout is glossed over with excuses about Holmes age and eroded physical abilities, despite the fact that he went on to fight until well into the nineties, facing the likes of McCall, Mercer and Holyfield. This is one of the examples of the irritating double standard that many people adopt when talking about Tyson.

          Of course, several of Tyson's flaws were legit. His power tended to markedly diminish if he couldn't get full leverage on his shots and his poor stamina also had a detrimental effect in the later rounds, since such a large percentage of his power came from the legs and hips. But I can't think of too many fighters whom I would undoubtedly say had greater one punch power than Tyson. Tua is about the only one.

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          • !! Anorak
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            In fairness, Holmes himself is on record as saying that Shavers (who he fought more in shape) hit harder than Tyson.





            Let us also never forget that Tyson was beaten by Danny Williams in his 1988 prime.

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            • nomadman
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              #16
              Originally posted by Harry Balls
              One of the non-mentioned is Ibeabuchi. He hit like a truck basically.

              Not sure if i think Tyson had a bigger punch than Wlad. I think one would easily be fooled because wlad is so tentative.
              Wlad's power gets a little overrated around here. It usually takes several punches to put his opponents down. You rarely see him just turn out someone's lights with one shot (Chambers being the exception). Fighters like Peter and Brewster took numerous flush right hands straight to the grill without getting stopped (Brewster quit on his stool but it was a corner decision). He also landed flush to Haye's chops without visible effect. Rahman and Byrd took a beating before being waved off. Wlad's got power for sure, but harder than Tyson? I have a hard time seeing it.

              Ibeabuchi displayed some sick power, but he doesn't have a big enough body of fights for me to judge him fairly.
              Last edited by nomadman; 08-13-2011, 05:57 PM.

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                #17
                Originally posted by !! Anorak
                In fairness, Holmes himself is on record as saying that Shavers (who he fought more in shape) hit harder than Tyson.
                Briggs also said Vitali hit him harder than Foreman, Lewis and Wilson.

                Shavers himself said Cobb hit him the hardest.

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                • MARKBNLV
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by !! Anorak
                  In fairness, Holmes himself is on record as saying that Shavers (who he fought more in shape) hit harder than Tyson.





                  Let us also never forget that Tyson was beaten by Danny Williams in his 1988 prime.
                  hmm did you misquote or something danny williams was 10-15 years past 88.

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                  • tennis-legend
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                    #19
                    the klitschko brothers hit the hardest

                    especially vitali- he's 6'8 and he has good technique on the right

                    yes its all jab jab jab punch

                    but it works

                    i think tyson's combinations caused alot of problems but i dont think he hit especially hard himself- it was more of a combination of hits rather then RAW KO power

                    and yes bowe hit harder than tyson- he is also higher on the ATG list- 2nd to lewis from that era

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                    • B.U.R.N.E.R
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                      #20
                      Ernie Shavers





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