Is Glen Johnson a hall of famer

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  • WarMaidana
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    #31
    Sorry Glen but 15 losses is too much

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    • Mr. Ryan
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      #32
      Originally posted by gauze
      yes. because 15-20 years from now when we look back at peoples records we'll remember names like arreola and spadafora. oh yeah remember when vitali beat that up and coming american heavyweight and he cried like a biitch on hbo? remember that undefeated guy who shot his pregnant wife? they may not be first-ballot, but they're shoe-ins
      I can promise you with ALL certainty that they won't even be on the ballots.

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      • MARKBNLV
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        #33
        Originally posted by Asian Sensation
        I won't know who I'm voting for definitively until I sit down with my ballot and weigh my options out. I can say with confidence that Pacquiao, Mayweather, Hopkins, Trinidad, de la Hoya, Marquez and the likes will be in no doubt, but everyone else is contingent upon the choices available to me.
        If Glen were to fight Bute and ko him in Canada would that put him over the hump in your eyes.

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          #34
          Originally posted by MARKBNLV
          If Glen were to fight Bute and ko him in Canada would that put him over the hump in your eyes.
          Yeah, that'd do it. But then again, we have Johnson taking another option for whatever reason (financial or other), so the point is moot.

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          • visionary247
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            #35
            You guys here are talking like Johnson's career is already over. To my mind he has a reasonable shot of getting in provided he wins a legitimate world title and successfully defending it a couple times, maybe against someone who has previously beaten him, before finally retiring. He's unlikely to do that however because first and foremost he boxes for money and will continuing doing so provided he's getting paid & regardless of whether he loses. I guess there's nothing too wrong with that if the pay cheque is your sole reason for fighting. In that respect he's like an employee whose happy to punch the clock not giving a damn about being Employee of the Month where Employee of the Month only means getting your picture taken and having it posted up in the Staff Canteen.

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            • Megamasterking
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              #36
              No, but i respect him, he can still beat a top boxer who doesn't give his best. IMO he's not a HOF because he lost to many fights against average fighters. There is no point to have a Hall of fame if every fighters that have a good career ends up in there. For me, a HOF is for an exceptionnal fighter who brought something special to the game.

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              • BennyST
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                #37
                Originally posted by MARKBNLV
                I think he is,i dont think he will get in because of his losses a lot which were just robberies.
                Originally posted by MARKBNLV
                Multiple wins over good former world champs seals the deal for me.
                For ****s sake! Why not just let everyone who's ever won anything in? The HOF is the very greatest in the history of the sport. It is reserved for those few truly special fighters who have that something extra than all the others around them. Johnson is a decent fighter and was an ok champ, but he is in no way at all a HOFer.

                It's bad enough everyone talking about fighters like Hatton, Gatti, Cotto and others like them as HOF locks as if they are without doubt HOFers. Hatton isn't. You could argue Gatti is purely because of his special place as the ATG warrior he was and the many legendary fights he was in and Cotto you could argue as a very borderline, lower tier HOFer. Johnson is one of those great guys in boxing, but he is no HOFer.

                The HOF should be for those special fighters each era or generation who are the very, very best. Those who would be great in any era, at any time against any generation of fighters. Many times they are overlooked great fighters, other times they are solid dependable warriors as great champions and others are those truly special few once-in-lifetime types like Roy Jones, Duran, Ali, Leonard...etc.

                Johnson is none of those. He was a good, decent champ of his time.Nothing more, nothing less.

                Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                Absolutely not.

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                • Rome-By-Ko
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                  #38
                  I would say yes...

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                  • oaklandstephen
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                    #39
                    Hell yes he is!

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