Is Glen Johnson a hall of famer

[MARKBNLV]

So I have the green light to vote for Paul Spadafora and Chris Arreola?

Next year is my first year of eligibility to vote in the Hall of Fame, and I'll have a hard time checking the box next to his name when he's on the ballot. For me, I think he was a step below the elite level after 2005. If you look at it, his reign at the top wasn't that long, but he stayed around because he always gave good fights and had good names on his record.

What turned me off about him was that he always complained about close losses, trying to take away from the fighter who won. He did a great job complaining after the Cloud and first Dawson losses, which painted a picture afterwards that the fight wasn't even close.

To me, that's close to what Zab Judah does every time he loses.

You know Glen has been robbed before,is Tarver a Hofer in your eyes.

[DiegoFuego]

You know Glen has been robbed before,is Tarver a Hofer in your eyes.

I love Tarver, but if knocking out Roy Jones Jr. is enough to get you in the Hall of Fame, come on down, Danny Green!

I know the Hall of Fame is awful and anyone can get in - all the more reason to stop acting like it matters. The only way these belts go away is when we stop acknowledging them. Same should go for the Hall of Fame. Ignore it and maybe they'll restore some prestige to it.

[MARKBNLV]

With every loss, Johnson just goes higher in my book. Hopefully he can lose 25 more times before he retires because then he's on Emmanuel Augustus' level and there is nothing better than that in my opinion. Augustus is the greatest fighter that ever lived with 40 losses. If I could somehow lose 40 fights, I don't know what I'd do. Write a book, of course. But after that? Hollywood? Discover a new planet maybe? I don't know!

Look at the caliber of fighter he faces everytime out damn near,and most of his losses in the last 10 years are close decisions to dominate fighters and a few certified hofers.

[MARKBNLV]

I love Tarver, but if knocking out Roy Jones Jr. is enough to get you in the Hall of Fame, come on down, Danny Green!

I know the Hall of Fame is awful and anyone can get in - all the more reason to stop acting like it matters. The only way these belts go away is when we stop acknowledging them. Same should go for the Hall of Fame. Ignore it and maybe they'll restore some prestige to it.

Tarver ko of him is better then the rest imo,he broke Roy Jones plain and simple,Glen finished him and everyone else beat up his scraps.

[Mr. Ryan]

He should be in there because he is willing to fight the best all the time. The best aren't willing to fight him tho.

Save for Bernard Hopkins, who stopped him, Chad Dawson who fought him twice, Antonio Tarver who fought him twice, Clinton Woods who won 2/3 against him and most recently Carl Froch who beat him pretty decisively.

Glen Johnson is a credit to the sport of boxing for his toughness, professionalism and willingness to face anyone for the right amount. But Johnson has abused, in my opinion, the sympathy of boxing fans who have seen him on the short end of bad decisions in the past, which he tries to paint as the case each time he fights.

[DiegoFuego]

Look at the caliber of fighter he faces everytime out damn near,and most of his losses in the last 10 years are close decisions to dominate fighters and a few certified hofers.

So if I fought Bernard Hopkins, Chad Dawson, Antonio Tarver and Carl Froch and lost to all of them by decision, do I get in the Hall of Fame too?

That's like saying a ****ty college football team should go to a bowl for going 2-10 but having played USC, Oklahoma, Texas, Ohio State, Alabama and Boise St.

Since when do we reward people for losing? Boxing is not about moral victories, and if it is, then this sport is truly dead.

"I went 12 rounds with so-and-so...Lost all 12, but still went 12."

Congratulations. No one gives a ****.

[Mr. Ryan]

You know Glen has been robbed before,is Tarver a Hofer in your eyes.

I know Johnson has been robbed before, but now he claims every loss is a robbery, and that to me is a disservice to boxing. Glen Johnson isn't the only guy who had it rough in the sport.

Tarver, hmm. He was the first guy to beat Jones the right way, wins over a few guys here and there. I don't know, he's a little up and down to be honest. His personality has done him great service in recent years, so I could see him getting over the hump.

[DiegoFuego]

I am probably one of the only Tarver fans on this board. There is no way in hell he belongs in the Hall of Fame. But it's boxing so everybody Tarver ever fought is getting in eventually.

[Mr. Ryan]

I won't know who I'm voting for definitively until I sit down with my ballot and weigh my options out. I can say with confidence that Pacquiao, Mayweather, Hopkins, Trinidad, de la Hoya, Marquez and the likes will be in no doubt, but everyone else is contingent upon the choices available to me.

[gauze]

So I have the green light to vote for Paul Spadafora and Chris Arreola?

Next year is my first year of eligibility to vote in the Hall of Fame, and I'll have a hard time checking the box next to his name when he's on the ballot. For me, I think he was a step below the elite level after 2005. If you look at it, his reign at the top wasn't that long, but he stayed around because he always gave good fights and had good names on his record.

What turned me off about him was that he always complained about close losses, trying to take away from the fighter who won. He did a great job complaining after the Cloud and first Dawson losses, which painted a picture afterwards that the fight wasn't even close.

To me, that's close to what Zab Judah does every time he loses.

yes. because 15-20 years from now when we look back at peoples records we'll remember names like arreola and spadafora. oh yeah remember when vitali beat that up and coming american heavyweight and he cried like a biitch on hbo? remember that undefeated guy who shot his pregnant wife? they may not be first-ballot, but they're shoe-ins