Comments Thread For: Hopkins: Dawson's Second Chance Will Be Very Painful

[GlasJaw17]

I really think you need to take into account the amount of punches joe landed. That is what counts. Scoring punches. Whether hopkins landed the more meaningful punches is irrelevant when joe is throwing four to his one. He simply outworked hopkins. Hopkins has joe hurt in the first and could have finished him but bottled it. I thought that a split decision was unfair on joe. If that fight was in england it would of been a UD.

Good point. But I think that Joe was uneffective in his agression, although he did outwork Hops. Take a look at the vid, let me know what you think. Nard was landing alot of short crisp counters. BTW, I am a calzaghe fan, I just thought the nod should have went to B, but sometimes a close fight can be subjective.

[GlasJaw17]

Here's the video:

Shoulder, what was your personal opinion of the fight? You post often, I know you know your ****

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I really think you need to take into account the amount of punches joe landed. That is what counts. Scoring punches. Whether hopkins landed the more meaningful punches is irrelevant when joe is throwing four to his one. He simply outworked hopkins. Hopkins has joe hurt in the first and could have finished him but bottled it. I thought that a split decision was unfair on joe. If that fight was in england it would of been a UD.

calzaghe wasn't landing his punches. watch it closely. hopkins easily outlanded him in more of the rounds. you shouldn't give calzaghe credit just for throwing and missing but credit to hopkins for having good defense. this is how boxing is supposed to work. you don't reward inaccuracy. you reward clean punching and defense. calzaghe had neither.

[ShoulderRoll]

Shoulder, what was your personal opinion of the fight? You post often, I know you know your ****

Calzaghe was throwing a lot of flurries which made him look more active, but many of those were either slapping punches that barely grazed Hopkins or just outright misses.

I thought Bernard won in a close fight. Especially with the knockdown he scored.

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if Dawson loses one round to BHop, he should be ashamed of himself

he lost rounds to a far lesser in pascal...... he's already been embarrassed and he's a shaw fighter, he's been living years in shame.........

You guys are so bigoted, or shall i call it just biased. Calzaghe made an absolute fool of Hopkins. Befuddled him as if he were a beginner. With all thhe usual Hopkins theatrics, along with his headbutts and fould blows etc when the ref couldn;t see, it was really laughable, and it was obvious that Calzaghe knew exactly what Hopkins was trying on. I think he was surprised more than once that the ref let him get away with it.

The "SPLIT"decision was as fraudulent as were Hopkins attempts to influence the ref to call "foul" more often so that he could keep having breathers. Calzaghe was just too smart and too fast for him. On a different level entirely. It was more like a Vaudeville act than a boxing match, because all the actual boxing came from one side. The other side contributed the inept, low "comedy".

Get some sense abouut boxing .....at least!

you have got to be out of your T I T S!!! calzaghe fanned the whole crowd all night long, I was there, ringside, and seen it a half million times, as well as been scoring fights for well over 15 years, calzaghe landed more on non scoring areas than he landed on legal scoring areas...... he fought dirty, and didn't land a significant punch until latter half of the fight and even after that he didn't land anything clean after that.

i got to call shenanigans on your boxing wherewithal because if you actually thought that calzaghe made hopkins look like a fool? you have a boxing IQ that is in the negative............ below zero.... scarily embarrassing......

STFU .. go watch the fight over and count with your hands how many MEANINGFUL punches Joe landed. every single punch that mattered was landed by Hopkins, CompuBox was givin Joe credit for landing on his elbows and shoulders which is why u get that ridiculous number at the end of the bout. . and almost everyone agreed it was a controversial decision, and what should a great fighter do when hes involved in any questionable fight? rematch !!.. Hopkins was down for a rematch the same night , Joe fell off the map and "retired"/ran from Bhop.

whos a living legend , certified first ballot hall of famer ? HOPS !!

it's preposterous how people think calzaghe won with landing punches in non scoring areas..... calzaghe didn't want any part of hopkins after that fight, with his immediate refusal of a rematch in the in ring post fight interview, citing it was a boring fight....... what a joke, then all joe's blowhard fans and casual fans that have been conditioned into not liking hopkins because of boxing establishments attempt to marginalize him, want to parrot calzaghe because they're front runners and D I CK riders.....

the fight was close and a rematch was and still is in order, calzaghe doesn't want any, hopkins was his toughest fight in his whole career, so joe made sure to not go through that again.....

What fight were you watching? Hopkins made Joe look like an amateur! It was clearly a Hopkins win! If you don't think so you don't know boxing or are just biased yourself! Here's a link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyz2cws8LBE . The fight is in slow mo, so you can see for yourself. Hopkins was robbed! Watch it again and tell me how Joe won that fight, if you still think Calzaghe won, than I thank god you aren't an official judge because you obviously do not know how to score a fight. Ring generalship, defense, effective aggression, and most of all clean effective punching. All of which B-Hop owned. Here's the link again http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyz2cws8LBE .

yup, always with a good reference... i noticed that you can not do the same thing to illustrate a win in calzaghe's favor, not without bias editing...... funny how no one would even try....... maybe because they can't.

Hopkins truly lost to Calzaghe. Joe didn't fight Hopkins or Roy Jones in their primes so it doesn't matter. The outcome at least for Roy would have been alot different, especially since Roy easily beat Hopkins with one hand in their prime when it counts for legacy reasons. Hopkins will lose to Dawson.

uummm, no..... and uuummm, no......... and uumm, no again.... roy jones beat hopkins academically, it was a hotly contested fight and roy used his superior athleticism to dance and avoid exchanges with hopkins, it was not a schooling, and it was very far from an easy fight, even jones admitted that hopkins was one of the tougher fighters he's faced in his career......

dawson couldn't even come close to beating pascal until the 11th round.... when pascal was trying to coast to a win...... when he became more predictable and easier to figure out

what makes you or anyone think that dawson is going to have any kind of answer to hopkins and his multifaceted skill set??? with youth? inexperience? his overwhelming punch out put? oh I know, he's a southpaw!?!? thats his advantage over hopkins! get lost on that mess......

i'm not saying dawson can not win, he can, but I think and feel it is HIGHLY UNLIKELY.

How everyone can insult and belittle Calzaghe is beyond me. He was the most entertaining british fighter ever! What he did in the jones and hopkins fight was remarkable. As for this fight i think dawson will be to fast and too accurate. Hopkins can go twelve rounds if he dictates the pace. If dawson doesnt fall asleep in the fight then he will probably win 8-4.

you are aware hopkins is one of the better defensive fighters in boxing, even at his age, but throughout his whole career, as well as having the uncanny ability to take his opponents best weapons and attributes away. and no one really gets a clean shot off on him and it is often said by not only the fighters but those who are aware, that even in a win, NO ONE LOOKS GOOD AGAINST HOPKINS, and why is that, because they can't crack his shell. pascal was the closest to breaking through on that one.

dawson, i don't think has anything new or different to show hopkins, that hopkins doesn't know how to handle..... unless he fights like a whirlwind tasmanian devil, something like an aaron pryor? he aint winning....

I really think you need to take into account the amount of punches joe landed. That is what counts. Scoring punches. Whether hopkins landed the more meaningful punches is irrelevant when joe is throwing four to his one. He simply outworked hopkins. Hopkins has joe hurt in the first and could have finished him but bottled it. I thought that a split decision was unfair on joe. If that fight was in england it would of been a UD.

um, WRONG, he might have out worked hopkins, but it wasn't effective, hell, three quarters of joes punches weren't even on scoring areas. hips, elbows, back of the head, the back and kidneys, those aren't scoring areas in a fight, not in boxing at least, and compubox was ringing up everything, even punches he was missing, even lampley was championing punches calzaghe was missing, all the while both hbo commentating and compubox both not giving hopkins his credit.

joe got dropped, joe got countered all fight long, joe got walked into traps all fight long, and he missed and threw punches like an amateur the better half of the fight......

unfair?? for joe? good god, i can smell calzaghe's jizz in your hair....... from here..... vegas.

[GlasJaw17]

he lost rounds to a far lesser in pascal...... he's already been embarrassed and he's a shaw fighter, he's been living years in shame.........




you have got to be out of your T I T S!!! calzaghe fanned the whole crowd all night long, I was there, ringside, and seen it a half million times, as well as been scoring fights for well over 15 years, calzaghe landed more on non scoring areas than he landed on legal scoring areas...... he fought dirty, and didn't land a significant punch until latter half of the fight and even after that he didn't land anything clean after that.

i got to call shenanigans on your boxing wherewithal because if you actually thought that calzaghe made hopkins look like a fool? you have a boxing IQ that is in the negative............ below zero.... scarily embarrassing......




it's preposterous how people think calzaghe won with landing punches in non scoring areas..... calzaghe didn't want any part of hopkins after that fight, with his immediate refusal of a rematch in the in ring post fight interview, citing it was a boring fight....... what a joke, then all joe's blowhard fans and casual fans that have been conditioned into not liking hopkins because of boxing establishments attempt to marginalize him, want to parrot calzaghe because they're front runners and D I CK riders.....

the fight was close and a rematch was and still is in order, calzaghe doesn't want any, hopkins was his toughest fight in his whole career, so joe made sure to not go through that again.....





yup, always with a good reference... i noticed that you can not do the same thing to illustrate a win in calzaghe's favor, not without bias editing...... funny how no one would even try....... maybe because they can't.




uummm, no..... and uuummm, no......... and uumm, no again.... roy jones beat hopkins academically, it was a hotly contested fight and roy used his superior athleticism to dance and avoid exchanges with hopkins, it was not a schooling, and it was very far from an easy fight, even jones admitted that hopkins was one of the tougher fighters he's faced in his career......

dawson couldn't even come close to beating pascal until the 11th round.... when pascal was trying to coast to a win...... when he became more predictable and easier to figure out

what makes you or anyone think that dawson is going to have any kind of answer to hopkins and his multifaceted skill set??? with youth? inexperience? his overwhelming punch out put? oh I know, he's a southpaw!?!? thats his advantage over hopkins! get lost on that mess......

i'm not saying dawson can not win, he can, but I think and feel it is HIGHLY UNLIKELY.





you are aware hopkins is one of the better defensive fighters in boxing, even at his age, but throughout his whole career, as well as having the uncanny ability to take his opponents best weapons and attributes away. and no one really gets a clean shot off on him and it is often said by not only the fighters but those who are aware, that even in a win, NO ONE LOOKS GOOD AGAINST HOPKINS, and why is that, because they can't crack his shell. pascal was the closest to breaking through on that one.

dawson, i don't think has anything new or different to show hopkins, that hopkins doesn't know how to handle..... unless he fights like a whirlwind tasmanian devil, something like an aaron pryor? he aint winning....




um, WRONG, he might have out worked hopkins, but it wasn't effective, hell, three quarters of joes punches weren't even on scoring areas. hips, elbows, back of the head, the back and kidneys, those aren't scoring areas in a fight, not in boxing at least, and compubox was ringing up everything, even punches he was missing, even lampley was championing punches calzaghe was missing, all the while both hbo commentating and compubox both not giving hopkins his credit.

joe got dropped, joe got countered all fight long, joe got walked into traps all fight long, and he missed and threw punches like an amateur the better half of the fight......

unfair?? for joe? good god, i can smell calzaghe's jizz in your hair....... from here..... vegas.

Deuce, I think you just owned everyone!

[GRUSTLER]

Hopkins would have won that fight by KO if he just let his hands go. The thing about Hopkins is that, if his opponent is using speed, then he cannot dictate the fight like he does against slower guys. Calzaghe was supposed to be a W for him but he kind of let that fight slip through his fingers by not being active. It was obvious that Joe couldn't hurt him and Bernard could hurt Joe. Same thing in the Jermaine Taylor fights. Hopkins just need to let his hands go to close the show.

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Hopkins would have won that fight by KO if he just let his hands go. The thing about Hopkins is that, if his opponent is using speed, then he cannot dictate the fight like he does against slower guys. Calzaghe was supposed to be a W for him but he kind of let that fight slip through his fingers by not being active. It was obvious that Joe couldn't hurt him and Bernard could hurt Joe. Same thing in the Jermaine Taylor fights. Hopkins just need to let his hands go to close the show.

hopkins could have dictated that fight a lot more. almost everytime he threw lead punches he hit calzaghe and stopped him in his tracks. his defensive countering strategy should have worked if the judges were competent but in boxing that's hardly ever the case. i think if the fight was in the uk he would have went for it a lot more just like he went for it a lot more against pascal. calzaghe was wise to avoid the rematch and retire.

[BoZz]

you never look good winning a "disputed" decision....


you look even worse, when you choose not to have a rematch.


then, you look really bad, when you sniff coke.

that's true the same goes for lewis..vitali was in front on the score cards and lenox didn't want to do a rematch which would of been a great fight..he did the same as joe..went into retirement like a little girl

[Pastrano]

Dawson is going to beat the hell out of Hopkins as long as he is healthy.

Amen. Can't wait to see Bad Chad put a whoopin' on that old, obnoxious sob!