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  • #31
    Originally posted by AKATheMack View Post
    They have 2 exciting fights that were also controversial, a 3rd fight made sense. Until someone wins convincingly, it was inevitable that they'd fight again.
    You said "makes sense", I fixed it for ya. You're welcome

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    • #32
      Marquez has been through the MP storm twice already... he'll be fine

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      • #33
        Originally posted by BennyST View Post
        What can you say? Are you serious? Pac's doing the same thing against an older version of someone he already beat you dip****! Well, you said it best. Pac is fighting guys that have all been beaten already by Floyd. Yes, Pac fought Marquez a decade ago first.

        But, when Marquez moved up two divisions to fight Floyd Floyd got so slammed by all the rabid Pac fans it wasn't funny. Now Pac's doing it and it's all cool and it's about retiring fighters that Floyd already beat rather than taking ****ty fights against fighters he shouldn't be fighting?

        Of course Oscar, Mosley weren't in their prime. How does that make it ok for Pac then when he fought both of them after bad losses to Floyd? Why is it ok for Pac to fight Marquez now doing the same as Floyd did by making him move up when Marquez is much older again?

        While Hatton wasn't shot, it was his last fight and he had clearly lost something from being knocked out in the biggest fight of his career not long before. It was a great win, but the 140/147 difference is minimal to nothing. Floyd moved up from 130 so it was as much of an advantage for Hatton as for Floyd.

        Either way, you're still simply saying that Pac is doing nothing but fighting guys that have already been beaten by Floyd, are past their prime or shot because you yourself are admitting that they weren't prime when they fought Floyd and he beat all of them before Pac. I guess it's ok to keep fighting guys coming off losses to your nemesis as long as you make sure to beat them better...no matter how much older, how many more losses they are coming off, how much more shot and ****e they might be.

        I still agree with you though. Marquez is getting hit a lot easier than ever, is much older, slower, worse reflexes and moving up two divisions....against a great fighter in his prime. He's going to take a beating. Sadly. You might like it, but you're pretty obviously a ****.

        OUCH!

        lol, why so mean?

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        • #34
          Originally posted by skillswin View Post
          what kind of fan are you?? you dont mind marquez health at all?? marquez don't belong at WW....
          Is this not the same Marquez who came up two divisions to fight Floyd at 144 lbs. but was later cheated because the bigger guy would not honor the agreement?
          Must not be the same Marquez because some people are saying that in spite of being 2+ inches shorter, 5 inch less reach and 10/15 lbs. lighter, that other Marquez was still a great win for Floyd.

          This Marquez that Pac is scheduled to fight must not be the same Marquez that Floyd fought because this new guy has no business in the WW division, according to those who gave Floyd credit for his win against the other Marquez. It does not matter that this new Marquez is almost equal in size and other stats to Pac except for being lighter by about 3 lbs. at fight night. It also does not matter that the contracted weight is 144 lbs., which maybe a small concession, but still an advantage in favor of this Marquez, not Pac's. Incidentally, that was the same agreement the other Marquez had with Floyd to make that fight less of a mismatch. Not honoring that agreement was not a big deal, according to some. Marquez was paid anyway.

          Therefore, even if he wins, Pac cannot be given any credit for it since obviously, this is a mismatch. Floyd's win over the other Marquez is of a different nature and circumstance. It is on the same level as his great wins over Mitchell, Judah, Baldomir, the LWW hatton and the 38 year old Mosley.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Bushbaby View Post
            Really? I guess the Margarito fight was cool to you huh? Why, may I ask?
            He'd been one of the top WWs for many years. The title was obviously bullshit and Margarito didnt deserve a big payday after the cheating, but its hardly a cherrypick. He was still a big , strong guy who threw lots of punches and had a good chin. I can name many elite fighters who took on softer opponents than Antonio Margarito.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by straightleft View Post
              Pac already fought Marquez twice and arguably beat him twice. The immediate rematch has no point because if the fight was so close again, what do you want another rematch again? Pac made the right decision and historical significant when he beat Diaz for his 4 belts in another weight division. Without the Diaz fight, the opportunity to fight Oscar would be lost as Oscar would fight someone else. Pac made his name known to casual fans when he beat Oscar. The thing you can't say the same even if Pac beat Marquez for the 3rd time.
              Yes, an immediate rematch with Marquez would have been nicely warranted over a fight against an irrelevant weak belt holder! People love bringing up Oscar like they new the path that laid ahead for Pac at the time!

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