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  • #21
    Originally posted by whirlwind View Post
    This time Pac will give him a serious beating just like Oscar, Hatton and Mosley. Pac already has the habit of retiring those men Floyd recently fought. Watchout!
    So what you're saying is that Floyd fights them when they are ripe for the taking while Pac fights all of Floyds left-overs while they are just shot or old and have just been badly beaten already?

    Anyway, it's another 40 year old that's already past his best years and looking worse than ever with every possible advantage against him, made worse by having to move up two divisions to where he was already beaten badly years ago by Floyd. Great fight.....Pac's really taking some serious tests and showing Floyd and his fans how it's done....

    Errr, you know, cause they get better with age and more losses.....What better time to fight someone than when they've just been beaten or clearly past it?

    I guess fighting 40 year olds, guys about to retire or coming off bad losses (funnily enough usually to the guy that Pac fans are always ranting about fighting old shot fighters) is what's called P4P greatness now.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by BennyST View Post
      So what you're saying is that Floyd fights them when they are ripe for the taking while Pac fights all of Floyds left-overs while they are just shot or old and have just been badly beaten already?

      Anyway, it's another 40 year old that's already past his best years and looking worse than ever with every possible advantage against him, made worse by having to move up two divisions to where he was already beaten badly years ago by Floyd. Great fight.....Pac's really taking some serious tests and showing Floyd and his fans how it's done....

      Errr, you know, cause they get better with age and more losses.....What better time to fight someone than when they've just been beaten or clearly past it?

      I guess fighting 40 year olds, guys about to retire or coming off bad losses (funnily enough usually to the guy that Pac fans are always ranting about fighting old shot fighters) is what's called P4P greatness now.
      Don't tell me Oscar and Mosley were in their prime when Floyd beat them? Don't tell me after Hatton first loss automatically he became shot? Pac has 3 losses is he shot as well? Floyd fighting style he thinks for his own safety first and content to win by decision. Pac fighting style is seek and destroy, gave his opponents (Barrera, Morales, Diaz, Oscar, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito and Mosley) the worst beating they had their entire boxing career from a midget, he embarrassed them, humiliated them to the point where some of them had no other choice but to retire (Oscar, Hatton, Clottey, possibly Mosley).

      Pac fought Hatton at his best weight 140 > Floyd fought Hatton at 147
      Pac fought prime Marquez at 126 & 130 > Floyd at 144 and came 2 lbs overweight
      Last edited by whirlwind; 08-13-2011, 07:00 AM.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by whirlwind View Post
        This time Pac will give him a serious beating just like Oscar, Hatton and Mosley. Pac already has the habit of retiring those men Floyd recently fought. Watchout!
        Marquez is 65yrs old so what do you expect?

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Jakutindi Wauya View Post
          Marquez is 65yrs old so what do you expect?
          Pac fought first a decade younger Marquez at his best weight 126 and 130. Floyd baited the older lightweight Marquez to move 2 divisions above and cheated him when he came 2 lbs overweight. So what can you say?
          Last edited by whirlwind; 08-13-2011, 07:01 AM.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by whirlwind View Post
            Pac fought first a decade younger Marquez at his best weight 126 and 130. Floyd baited the lightweight Marquez to move 2 divisions above and cheated him when he came 2 lbs overweight. So what can you say?
            What can you say? Are you serious? Pac's doing the same thing against an older version of someone he already beat you dip****! Well, you said it best. Pac is fighting guys that have all been beaten already by Floyd. Yes, Pac fought Marquez a decade ago first.

            But, when Marquez moved up two divisions to fight Floyd Floyd got so slammed by all the rabid Pac fans it wasn't funny. Now Pac's doing it and it's all cool and it's about retiring fighters that Floyd already beat rather than taking ****ty fights against fighters he shouldn't be fighting?

            Of course Oscar, Mosley weren't in their prime. How does that make it ok for Pac then when he fought both of them after bad losses to Floyd? Why is it ok for Pac to fight Marquez now doing the same as Floyd did by making him move up when Marquez is much older again?

            While Hatton wasn't shot, it was his last fight and he had clearly lost something from being knocked out in the biggest fight of his career not long before. It was a great win, but the 140/147 difference is minimal to nothing. Floyd moved up from 130 so it was as much of an advantage for Hatton as for Floyd.

            Either way, you're still simply saying that Pac is doing nothing but fighting guys that have already been beaten by Floyd, are past their prime or shot because you yourself are admitting that they weren't prime when they fought Floyd and he beat all of them before Pac. I guess it's ok to keep fighting guys coming off losses to your nemesis as long as you make sure to beat them better...no matter how much older, how many more losses they are coming off, how much more shot and ****e they might be.

            I still agree with you though. Marquez is getting hit a lot easier than ever, is much older, slower, worse reflexes and moving up two divisions....against a great fighter in his prime. He's going to take a beating. Sadly. You might like it, but you're pretty obviously a ****.
            Last edited by BennyST; 08-13-2011, 07:06 AM.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by BennyST View Post
              What can you say? Are you serious? Pac's doing the same thing against an older version of someone he already beat you dip****! Well, you said it best. Pac is fighting guys that have all been beaten already by Floyd. Yes, Pac fought Marquez a decade ago first.

              But, when Marquez moved up two divisions to fight Floyd Floyd got so slammed by all the rabid Pac fans it wasn't funny. Now Pac's doing it and it's all cool and it's about retiring fighters that Floyd already beat rather than taking ****ty fights against fighters he shouldn't be fighting?

              Of course Oscar, Mosley weren't in their prime. How does that make it ok for Pac then when he fought both of them after bad losses to Floyd? Why is it ok for Pac to fight Marquez now doing the same as Floyd did by making him move up when Marquez is much older again?

              While Hatton wasn't shot, it was his last fight and he had clearly lost something from being knocked out in the biggest fight of his career not long before. It was a great win, but the 140/147 difference is minimal to nothing. Floyd moved up from 130 so it was as much of an advantage for Hatton as for Floyd.

              Either way, you're still simply saying that Pac is doing nothing but fighting guys that have already been beaten by Floyd, are past their prime or shot because you yourself are admitting that they weren't prime when they fought Floyd and he beat all of them before Pac. I guess it's ok to keep fighting guys coming off losses to your nemesis as long as you make sure to beat them better...no matter how much older, how many more losses they are coming off, how much more shot and ****e they might be.

              I still agree with you though. Marquez is getting hit a lot easier than ever, is much older, slower, worse reflexes and moving up two divisions....against a great fighter in his prime. He's going to take a beating. Sadly. You might like it, but you're pretty obviously a ****.
              Simple. Pac got passed because he was a midget (anybody who weighed in 148 fight night at WW should move down to 135 or 140) and everybody thought back then he has no business fighting at welterweight while Floyd is the complete opposite. Pac will fight Marquez with the possibility of 1 or 2 lbs difference unlike Floyd who most probably had 10-15 lbs advantage over Marquez in their fight.
              Last edited by whirlwind; 08-13-2011, 07:41 AM.

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              • #27
                They have 2 exciting fights that were also controversial, a 3rd fight makes sense. Until someone wins convincingly, it was inevitable that they'd fight again.

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                • #28
                  Talk about a tread backfiring. The average fight fan, who has any type of boxing knowledge is realizing that the Pacman smoke & mirrors act is getting long in the tooth. Pacman is Floyding 2.0. Ts is bragging about Pacman beating a man that got hurt by Katsidis at lightweight. At welterweight that was a ****ty fight when Floyd beat him there. That's a crying shame. I don't think I would have been able to look at my reflection if I was defending a guy that did nothing but beat on shot 40 year olds while claiming greatness.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Bushbaby View Post
                    Talk about a tread backfiring. The average fight fan, who has any type of boxing knowledge is realizing that the Pacman smoke & mirrors act is getting long in the tooth. Pacman is Floyding 2.0. Ts is bragging about Pacman beating a man that got hurt by Katsidis at lightweight. At welterweight that was a ****ty fight when Floyd beat him there. That's a crying shame. I don't think I would have been able to look at my reflection if I was defending a guy that did nothing but beat on shot 40 year olds while claiming greatness.
                    How many times has Pacquiao claimed greatness though? and Mosley is really the only real inexcusable fight hes had.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by AKATheMack View Post
                      How many times has Pacquiao claimed greatness though? and Mosley is really the only real inexcusable fight hes had.
                      Really? I guess the Margarito fight was cool to you huh? Why, may I ask?

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