I've had time to think... I've lost a lot of respect for Jose Luis Castillo

[Bombardier]

I'm a castillo fan that doesnt feel the least bit screwed. I think the only fans that feel that way are the ones that cant accept the fact that diego cant handle castillo's power and lost cause he insisted on slugging it out with him.
To claim diego wasnt motivated is crazy..belt or no belt, NO fighter gets in the ring to lose, and I think diego knew he needed to prove to some that the little mouthpiece trick wasnt his saving, and instead he proved it was.
Diego isnt saying any of the things his fans are, yet he is the one that got ko'ed. Weird.. And some of you act like he didnt get paid either...all around a big contradiction on many levels.

Diego's comments about this fight mean 1 of 2 things, imo:

1) He really is the "true warrior" that people make him out to be, which means he is too stubborn/****** to know what's good for him, like taking fights with guys that don't make weight.

2) He's covering up how he really feels because he knows he didn't lose his titles and he's in like for another megabucks PPV night.

I'm not a fan of either Corrales or Castillo, really (no offence to either, just don't follow them). But after all the hype surrounding this event a lot of us expected a title fight and that both fighters would follow the time-honoured rules of boxing, like making weight. The fact that neither of these things happened is a huge disappointment.

If Castillo and his fans got out some measure of revenge here, then fine. But the rest of us were expecting something more than that.

[SnoopySmurf]

All we have to do is compare Castillo's punches in the second fight to his first fight.

Big difference. Way more power. He literally moved Corrales with those hooks, something he wasn't able to do in the first fight. He way they fought, it was like watching a welterweight take on a lightweight.

[Bombardier]

So...you mean to tell me that:
Some of you were sitting & waiting to see the two guys who gave us as great a fight we've seen, getting it on again...& you weren't excited because the bull**** belts (which we all rail against-always) weren't at stake ?
Please.

There's a difference though between the belts getting tossed aside because of ABC politics and them falling out of the picture cause one guy can't follow the rules properly and make weight.

I think most of us agree that the Ring belt is more or less legit, right? Well that was taken off the table as well because of what happened.

[.::|ULTIMATE|::.]

He had no intentions of making the weight, he just wanted to win... Regardless of the rules:

• His camp even tried to disrupt the proceedings...

• The weight difference made a BIG difference... Whilst Castillo was training hard, Corrales was making weight loss preperations.

• So Corrales weighed in on the night 2lbs heavier than Castillo on the night?... Corrales extra weight was fluid gain as opposed to solid muscle.

• The Castillo camp knew that this fight wouldn't be called off at that late stage because of the money involved!

• That Castillo camp did this knowing that they wouldn't win the belts, but also that Castillo would never fight at 135lbs again anyway, and a win here was the perfect way to set up a big money fight at 140lbs!

I will say that Corrales had a bad game plan anyway, and probably would have lost... But that's irrelivant... What's important here is that - Castillo played the system, and got away with it!

Who's to say that others won't try these kind of tricks in the future when big money's involved?


Before the mexican fans jump on me... I will add that I don't compare "not making the weight" to in-fight tactics like the mouthpiece, a lowblow, or leading with the head. The weight issue can get people hurt or killed!

Actually had Diego Chosen NOT to fight he would have still gotten paid his purse plus half the purse of Castillo. So on the contrary there was money in not taking it.

Lets be truthful here,

Diego and his camp thought like most people and that is when a fighter doesnt make weight it usually means they are not well prepared. Diego and his camp felt they had an opportunity on their hands and they accepted the fight. Only after he got laid out did the excuses start flying. But they too tried taking advantage of the situation.

If you look at castillo's physique this weighing and the last fights, you can tell Castillo is in much better physical form in the first fight. YOU KNOW Diego and his people saw that and they wanted to take advantage.

Now he got laid out in a fight where Castillo didnt prove to be the stronger man, or the one with more stamina, (where the weight would come in handy), simply the smarter with him firing sneaky right leads and jabs at distance and finally dropping him with an awesome punch that would have leveled anybody from 140 and below.

Now all of a sudden its an issue to the Diego camp.

Diego's camp is all about one thing and thats putting Diego's life on the line to make money. They have no remorse no true feelings they can say they are family all they want but in the end its all about the bills. Diego shouldnt be going into a 3rd fight with Castillo at least not at this time, however thats what Diegos people are insisting. 2 fights and Diegos taken the worst beatings in both, tell me his people care about him wanting to put him in so soon against someone who they know is gonna give as good as he takes.

[tracylee]

Diego's comments about this fight mean 1 of 2 things, imo:

1) He really is the "true warrior" that people make him out to be, which means he is too stubborn/****** to know what's good for him, like taking fights with guys that don't make weight.

2) He's covering up how he really feels because he knows he didn't lose his titles and he's in like for another megabucks PPV night.

I'm not a fan of either Corrales or Castillo, really (no offence to either, just don't follow them). But after all the hype surrounding this event a lot of us expected a title fight and that both fighters would follow the time-honoured rules of boxing, like making weight. The fact that neither of these things happened is a huge disappointment.

If Castillo and his fans got out some measure of revenge here, then fine. But the rest of us were expecting something more than that.

so it's impossible for diego to be giving castillo full credit cause he thinks he deserves it? I'm sorry, but when a guy get's knocked down and is talking to himself....saying "whoa" over and over, I'd risk betting his clock just got struck HARD, so him actually meaning the things he said in the post fight interview isnt so hard to believe.
I've yet to see a better example of double standards than his fans claiming spitting out the mouthpiece cause he couldnt continue by the count of 10 is not only okay, it's 'smart'...but claim that castillo cheated by coming into the fight over the limit. BOTH weighed more..all fighters weigh more at the time of the bout.
I wish there was some way to know for certain (instead of assuming) if diego had won, would anybody be complaining about the wt?? I dont think so. Since chico lost (he really lost the first bout when he couldnt start again by 10 and had to cheat) it's all "castillo cheated" and so and so's lost all respect for him...weird, thats the exact same way I felt about diego after watching him cheat and get away with it.
Honestly, if it were me, I'm much rather be 'known' for failing to make wt. (since it didnt mean anything when it mattered most..at fight time) than as someone that would stoop to cheating like that. Just my opinion.
For me, it's not a matter of revenge..it's about proving what I knew after the first fight...that diego truly lost and just cant handle castillo's power....and the fact that without the 30 sec. recovery time, the first one would have ended the same way the second one did.

[Knicksman20]

If people think that JLC's NOT DRYING himself out to make 135 like Corrales did didn't give him an unfair advantage then that's just plain delusional. If Chico spit his mouthpiece out intentionally in the 1st fight than shame on him; but he was dealt with & had a point taken from him which is within the rules. JLC coming in at 142 means he had no intention of making 135 & that's de****able because that's not only premeditated; he could've injured Chico in the ring. On top of not making weight, his doctor tried to rig the scales & that's unacceptable. What JLC did was far worse than spitting out a mouthpiece to buy extra time. And as far as Chico weighing more than JLC by fight time is concerned; it sure as hell wasn't muscle unlike JLC but water weight that Chico put back on.

[BLOODSHED]

Bro, MASSIVE karma for you. This line is so true. They're all about blood and not Diego's welfare. Plus, Diego's manager looks fruity. Why is he trying to dress young?

Diego's camp is all about one thing and thats putting Diego's life on the line to make money. They have no remorse no true feelings they can say they are family all they want but in the end its all about the bills. Diego shouldnt be going into a 3rd fight with Castillo at least not at this time, however thats what Diegos people are insisting. 2 fights and Diegos taken the worst beatings in both, tell me his people care about him wanting to put him in so soon against someone who they know is gonna give as good as he takes.

[tracylee]

from everything I've heard and read, castillo DID try and lose the wt. He kept coming back to the scales...you people act like he intenionally gained wt. and didnt even try to drop any! Unless you were there holding his fork for him, you have absolutely NO way of knowing that. To claim you do is just bitterness, plain and simple.

[Knicksman20]

from everything I've heard and read, castillo DID try and lose the wt. He kept coming back to the scales...you people act like he intenionally gained wt. and didnt even try to drop any! Unless you were there holding his fork for him, you have absolutely NO way of knowing that. To claim you do is just bitterness, plain and simple.

With all due respect Tracylee, coming in at 142 & having your doc rig the scales in biggest fight of your life isn't killing yourself to make weight. Chico killed himself to make weight & it's not bitterness because I'm not a Chico fan.

[.::|ULTIMATE|::.]

If people think that JLC's NOT DRYING himself out to make 135 like Corrales did didn't give him an unfair advantage then that's just plain delusional. If Chico spit his mouthpiece out intentionally in the 1st fight than shame on him; but he was dealt with & had a point taken from him which is within the rules. JLC coming in at 142 means he had no intention of making 135 & that's de****able because that's not only premeditated; he could've injured Chico in the ring. On top of not making weight, his doctor tried to rig the scales & that's unacceptable. What JLC did was far worse than spitting out a mouthpiece to buy extra time. And as far as Chico weighing more than JLC by fight time is concerned; it sure as hell wasn't muscle unlike JLC but water weight that Chico put back on.

Actually JLC weighed in at 137. I thinks funny people always trying to raise the weight to make it more dramatic than it actually was.

Castillo weighed in not at 138.5 not at 140 not 142 not at 147.

He weighed in at 137!

He looked softer on the midsection than he has in a while, and on top of all that he had to go down in weight a lot in a few days. While corrales was able to gradually loose the weight. Ask any fighter or good trainer, loosing weight over time is better than trying to do it all in one day like Castillo had to do because his disrupted training.

Remember Castillo was flown in to Las Vegas early, disrupting his training by a whole week as he is normally up in the Mountains and in Sinaloa till at most 3 days before fight night.

He knew he couldnt loose anymore he had been in the sauna till there was no more water in his body all ready.