Comments Thread For: Klitschko vs Wach Showdown in Play For November?

[Jedi Vader]

You have your panties in a knot about racism a lot, don't you? To the point where you accuse me of racism when I respond to a black supremacist's post with a joke.

"Racism" means actively practicing or advocating something that denigrates or disadvantages another race, like saying black people should be banned from boxing, or that black fighters should be paid less than white fighters.

I have never done this, nor has anyone else here that I've read.

What you are calling "racism" is really just a matter of preference. If black people make lists on this forum of their favorite boxers and they have all black fighters on it, I don't see you accusing them of racism.

But if myself or Freedom or any other white person here favors white fighters, suddenly it's an example of vile racism by white supremacists.

That is a laughable double-standard. We are then put in a position where we can't say "oh, but I like this black fighter" because it looks like we're saying, "I'm not a racist, some of my best friends are black."

I make no apology for liking the Klitschkos or any other white fighter. Just as the black people who like only black fighters make no apology for it (nor should they). When I do cheer for a black fighter, like Antonio Tarver, who I just voted over Wlad and Bute for best fighter of the month, you never seem to be around.

My criticisms of Haye were based on his record and actions as a heavyweight, not on his race (though he's half-white, so maybe I should like 50% of him?).

Explain to me where I have accused you of being a racist??

Klit Lickers always accuse others of racism because they don't agree with your unrealistic Demigod worship of the brothers.

[boxaholic]

Both Klitschko brothers have earned the right to fight whoever n whenever they want. They have not only cleaned out the division they have made it look talentless and lazy.

The Klitschko brothers are everything right In boxing. I'm not a big supporter of this fight but coming off a fight vs. a non engaging Haye a fight vs Wach is respectable especially since Wlad wants to fight In the US and stay busy.

[The Hammer]

Size as nothing to do with it and you've never heard me mention size before.

So tell me what does Wach do for Wlad's legacy then??

Bearing in mind that you're always telling us that he would be Champion in any era, explain to us Wach's great standing in the division?

Convince me and all the others in this thread who have never heard of him.

Come on boy, let's hear it.

Instead of b1tching about it, tell us:

Who should Wlad fight, who is WILLING AND AVAILABLE THIS FALL?

There are no better options. There's Firtha, Johnson, Sosnowski, Mormeck, Welliver, Walker, Gavern, Fields, Ustinov, Oquendo, McCall, etc. but none of those are better choices than Wach.

The people who would be better options are not available: Povetkin, Dimitrenko, Boytsov, Valuev, Arreola, and Helenius.

[Jedi Vader]

Both Klitschko brothers have earned the right to fight whoever n whenever they want. They have not only cleaned out the division they have made it look talentless and lazy.

The Klitschko brothers are everything right In boxing. I'm not a big supporter of this fight but coming off a fight vs. a non engaging Haye a fight vs Wach is respectable especially since Wlad wants to fight In the US and stay busy.

That is because the Division IS talentless and lazy with the exception of Haye who as a blown up Cruiserweight, took Wlad 12 rounds and never even looked like he was going to get knocked down.

That's the reality of the Division.

[ChopperRead]

Explain to me where I have accused you of being a racist??

Klit Lickers always accuse others of racism because they don't agree with your unrealistic Demigod worship of the brothers.

You must have a very short memory:

What I can't abide with is reading countless posts saying how bad Haye is as a boxer and how easy Wlad will destroy/obliterate/annihiliate him, yet Wach is seen as a good young and strong prospect. That is what ****unney, Chopper, SteelSpammer and Apartheid do. They ruin everything with their blinded hate and racism.

[Jedi Vader]

Instead of b1tching about it, tell us:

Who should Wlad fight, who is WILLING AND AVAILABLE THIS FALL?

There are no better options. There's Firtha, Johnson, Sosnowski, Mormeck, Welliver, Walker, Gavern, Fields, Ustinov, Oquendo, McCall, etc. but none of those are better choices than Wach.

The people who would be better options are not available: Povetkin, Dimitrenko, Boytsov, Valuev, Arreola, and Helenius.

You've dodged my questions I see.

[JAB5239]

Wach (25-0, 13 KO) is very sturdy, and has never been down as an amateur or as a pro. He had a long amateur career, and won Silver in the EU amateur tournament in 2004.

The fight will draw a huge croud in Germany or Poland. It will be interesting to see Wlad in with someone who is taller (6'7") than he is. The haters won't be able to b1tch about a height advantage.

There really isn't anybody else available for Wladimir this fall, except for journeymen like Chauncey Welliver.

- Arreola: Wlad's first choice, but Arreola's management wanted one more fight before facing Wlad next year. Looks like he'll be facing Maurice Harris on Sep 15.

- Dimitrenko: scheduled to fight Sprott on Sept 24

- Boytsov: scheduled for a warm-up on the same card as Dimitrenko

- Povetkin: chicken-hearted Sasha is fighting Chagaev, wants no part of Wladimir

- Helenius: fighting Lyakhovich on Aug 27, his managers want him to have more experience before facing Wlad

Wlad's already beaten everyone else: Thompson, Haye, Chagaev, Chambers, etc.

This just goes to show how very, very weak the heavyweight division is. Good post, green K!

[The Hammer]

That is because the Division IS talentless and lazy with the exception of Haye who as a blown up Cruiserweight, took Wlad 12 rounds and never even looked like he was going to get knocked down.

That's the reality of the Division.

If you don't like it, why keep b1tching about it? Why not just ignore it?



I don't enjoy wrestling, so I just don't watch it. I don't b1tch about it though.

[The Hammer]

This just goes to show how very, very weak the heavyweight division is. Good post, green K!

I have a mentally ill stalker who keeps following and answering my posts, and spamming my profile page. He's been doing it ever since Wlad beat Haye and unified the titles, you see he envies and hates the Klitschkos because of their success.

His name is Joseph Benedetti. He has a lot of time on his hands even during the summer because he's on welfare and has little money. He's age 42, and he's 5'10" and a grossly overweight 245 pounds.

[JAB5239]

If you don't like it, why keep b1tching about it? Why not just ignore it?



I don't enjoy wrestling, so I just don't watch it. I don't b1tch about it though.

Ignoring it would be for nuthuggers. Putting it in perspective is what fans of the sport do so they can make proper comparisons and judgements.