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  • Originally posted by Mana$$aMauler View Post
    Extract some sense out of these questions.....

    1.) why didnt Pac simply call Mayweathers " bluff " and take a harmless little blood test, like Mosley did, like Ortiz did, and like any other clean athlete would ?only b1tches bend over on command

    2.) which one of Pacquiao's 8 ridiculous excuses did you believe ?
    what excuses?

    3.) if Pac had accepted the very same deal back in Dec 2009 that he recently stated he will accept NOW, then there would be no need whatsoever for a lawsuit..... so how can you possibly blame Mayweather?
    Back in 2009 only Mayweather was crying about testing, boxing didn't require such a thing.

    4.) why did Pacquiao not initiate legal action against Malinaggi and Cintron, who both made far worse statements than Mayweather?
    the other 2 would fight Manny without tests


    5.) why did Pacquiao not mention his objections to USADA back in Dec 2009?
    Who the **** heard of USADA back in 2009?

    6.) why did Pacquiao not mention his objections to USADA about 5 months ago when he publicly agreed to FULL testing?
    Show us any link Pac mentioning USADA, OR YOU ARE A LIAR!

    7.) why did Pacquiao require a grand total of 8 ridiculous excuses, requiring 8 different excuses means that none of them are genuine?
    Let's see how many excuses you come up with if you're asked the same exact question thousands of times for years?

    8.) Based on the points above, is it not plainly obvious that Pacquiao has been ducking Mayweather for 3 years, just like he ducked Marquez for 3 years.....Ducked? He's going to be fighting Marquez a 3rd time already, Marquez is just looking for a payday, heck even Barrera and Morales didn't care to fight Marquez...

    http://www.fighthype.com/pages/conte...de50886b20d4a5
    I dont feel that I need to respond to your whiney reply, because Jay has already ripped you a new one, but I will take the time to cover a couple of points.

    1.) only b1tches bend over on command

    What a truly childish, totally moronic, excuse..... grow up kid.

    2.) what excuses?

    These ones, tell me what one you believed..... ?

    Team Pacquiao's big ol' bag of ridiculous excuses.....

    1.) " I dont like needles "
    2.) " taking my blood the day before the fight will weaken me "
    3.) " I am too proud to take the test "
    4.) " Floyd is not the commission "
    5.) " taking my blood will affect my training, even 23-days from the fight "
    6.) " I feel too disrespected to take the test "
    7.) " he is bigger than me, so it will weaken me, more than him "
    8.) " USADA are corrupt "

    3.) Back in 2009 only Mayweather was crying about testing, boxing didn't require such a thing.

    So what? Random blood tests are harmless, if you are clean.

    4.) the other 2 would fight Manny without tests

    The funny thing is, Manny would likely fight them both

    5.) Who the **** heard of USADA back in 2009?

    Dont be so ******, if you never heard of USADA back in 2009, then you should not be here whining to me now.

    6.) Show us any link Pac mentioning USADA, OR YOU ARE A LIAR!

    What the hell are you on moron, if you dont keep up with events, p1ss off and whine to somebody else.....
    http://www.boxingscene.com/arum-pacq...h-usada--41329

    7.) Let's see how many excuses you come up with if you're asked the same exact question thousands of times for years?

    You whiney b1tch, if Pacquiao had a genuine excuse, he would only need one. Still waiting for you to tell me which of those 8 ridiculous excuses you believed.

    8.) Ducked? He's going to be fighting Marquez a 3rd time already, Marquez is just looking for a payday, heck even Barrera and Morales didn't care to fight Marquez...

    FACT: Most boxing experts had Marquez winning the first fight, and the entire developed world saw Pac get beaten in the second, he ducked Marquez like a b1tch for 3 years, and will only fight him now at welter because THE WHOLE WORLD can see that JMM is old fat and slow above 140.....
    http://www.fighthype.com/pages/conte...de50886b20d4a5

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    • It is funny as hell that Pac ducked the midget Marquez for three years, he must have p1ssed himself when JMM jumped on a plane to the Philippines

      But now..... now that THE ENTIRE WORLD knows that Marquez cant hang at welter..... NOW Manny will fight him

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      • Originally posted by Brother Jay View Post
        8.) based on the points above, is it not plainly obvious that pacquiao has been ducking mayweather for 3 years, just like he ducked marquez for 3 years.....



        Manny Pacquiao beat Juan Manuel Marquez in the same fashion that Paul Williams beat Erislandy Lara. There are official wins, and then there are wins were the fans know better. You want to see how full of **** you are? Watch it and weep, peasants.

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        If Mayweather didn't want to beat Manny, why would he agree to all of Manny's terms back in 2009? If Mayweather wanted to avoid Manny Pacquiao, why would he compromise on the original demand of testing up until the fight to a 14 day cutoff? If its Mayweather who has held up this fight, then why is it Manny's reluctance to sign the contract that's the REAL reason why this fight hasn't already happened? ALL TERMS HAVE BEEN REACHED!!!! PACQUIAO WILL NOT SIGN THE CONTRACT!!!!



        PED testing has been done before by greater boxers than Manny Pacquiao. Evander Holyfield is a greater boxer than Manny Pacquiao ever was. Holyfield submitted to Mike Tyson's demands without flinching because he actually wanted the fight and did everything to make it happen.

        MANNY PACQUIAO IS ONLY ABLE TO STAY RELEVANT BY ALLOWING BOB ARUM TO SET UP FIGHTS AGAINST 5TH RANKED FIGHTERS WHO CUT WEIGHT TO FACE HIM. MARGARITO WAS BANNED AND PACQUIAO HAD ARUM PAYOFF TEXAS TO LET ANTONIO COMPETE FOR A VACANT JRMW BELT THAT HE WAS NEVER IN POSITION TO COMPETE FOR.

        PACQUIAO WOULD HAVE BEEN AN AFTERTHOUGHT BY NOW IF HE WOULD HAVE MANNED UP AND FACED MAYWEATHER INSTEAD MARQUEZ.

        Pacquiao could have faced:

        DLH @170lbs like Floyd did
        Hatton when he was undefeated like Floyd did.
        Cotto when he was undefeated like Margarito did.
        Margarito before he was banned and #1.
        Mosley when Shane was the #1 WW.

        Pacquiao ABSOLUTELY refused to face these men when they were on top and winning. Pacquiao approached the above men ONLY once they lost so that they would agree to all of his terms for a huge amount of money.

        No 5th ranked has ever received millions upon millions for fighting a man not even truly competing at the WW limit. Yet DLH, Hatton, Cotto, Margarito and Mosley did because they all had BIG NAMES that could make Pacquiao look good on paper.

        Pacquiao would NEVER have dared to fight these guys when they were on top. Otherwise AT LEAST ONCE he would have. Just ONCE!!!

        Now, 4 years after the rematch should have happened, Manny is targeting Marquez?? That's the big "challenge" that Manny is taking on? People belittled the win over Mosley because he was old. Marquez is damn nearly as old AND HE'S FCUKING SMALLER!!!

        Floyd should fight Ortiz and then go after Jan Zaveck and Viacheslav Senchenko
        to unify the division. That in itself would be greater than anything that any current boxer has done. Unifying a division after reigning on top for 15 years would put Mayweather as the greatest of this era hands down.

        The funny part is that Mayweather can do that WITHOUT the lowly WBO belt. Becoming the WBC, WBA & IBF champion would effectively put Mayweather as not only the #1 WW, but as the #1 boxer in the world without having to do a thing after that to prove or defend that distinction.

        Pacquiao is doing to himself what Kostya Tszyu did to himself: He's a great fighter whose legacy will forever suffer because his ability is NOT THE SUM TOTAL OF HIS LEGACY. Tszyu was a great 140lb champion, but he never did great things. Being a catchweight king isn't going to cut it in an argument about who the greatest of this era was.

        The criteria for being the greatest of ANY era is and always will be:

        Who a boxer fought

        At what point in their careers did he fight them and why

        What rank they held to measure the weight of a win over them

        How many #1s you fought in your career

        How many different divisions did you face the #1

        How many champions you fought in your career

        How long your reigned at the top in your career

        How many losses you have

        At what point those losses came in your career

        In what condition were your best opponents in when you fought them(meaning were they passed their prime, were they trying to make a comeback, were they made to cut weight, were they fresh out of prison, were they coming of wins or losses, etc)

        Pacquiao's legacy is one of convenience. He used vacant titles to claim he was #1 in 5 divisions. He used catchweights to make a case for being a WW elite while stipulating his opponent's weight. He "hired" a banned bum to lose a vacant jrMW belt to him. He avoided Mosley for 3 years. He avoided Marquez for 4 years.

        If you silly peasants think that history won't show Pacquiao's peasant legacy for what it is then you're in for a rude awakening. I suspect though that Pacquiao will lose before that point and then only the crickets while be chirping in peasantville. That is if Pacquiao ever finds the balls to keep his word and follow through with signing the contract.

        You wrote a lot. to much for me to answer but here is what it proves you are a big Floyd fan a hater of Pac and maybe even Filipinos.
        ARe you kidding me. When you said Pac is not the draw. This statement right there shows that you are truly a Pac hater. You must be crazy. Boxing is surviving right now because of Pac. Without Pac 85 percent of your casual boxing fans will disappear. And boxing will get taken over by MMA.

        When Floyd went into retirement did the boxing world suffer... NO!!!!! watch when Pac leaves boxing and you will see his drawing power.

        Whats funny is. I have been asking you and uppercut for names that Pac could have fought to satisfy your gripes yet you cannot come up with one. Please don't say Berto or Sergio.

        I guess your logic is that he did face everyone just not when you and other haters liked the timing. E.g. too old, coming off a loss and any other claims to discredit Pacs accomplishment.

        bottom line you are a pure Pac hater. Anything Pac does will not be good enough to a hater like you. You already have an excuse build up for Floyd when he losses and get KO'd by Pac.(read my sig for the excuse you made up)

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        • Originally posted by LeadUppercut View Post
          It is funny as hell that Pac ducked the midget Marquez for three years, he must have p1ssed himself when JMM jumped on a plane to the Philippines

          But now..... now that THE ENTIRE WORLD knows that Marquez cant hang at welter..... NOW Manny will fight him



          Hey dumba55. aren't they fighting in a cacthweight. another excuse you going to put on one of Pac fight to discredit his accomplishment. i swear you became ****** when it comes to Pac and Fraud.
          This is a FACT: written in the record books
          The second fight was won by Pac. only knocked down was by Pac. Only true haters of Pac believes JMM won that fight.
          First fight. it was a draw. But one of the judge admitted later on that he couldn't count. which could have given a point higher to Pac.

          I told you stop swallowing Fraud's juices, it's bad for your brain, it makes you dumber. And by the looks of it you have had too much of it already.



          OST A KNOWN EXCUSE USED BY A BOXER TO DUCKED THE BEST FIGHTER OF HIS GENERATION.

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          • Originally posted by AceBoeing View Post
            Hey dumba55. aren't they fighting in a cacthweight. another excuse you going to put on one of Pac fight to discredit his accomplishment. i swear you became ****** when it comes to Pac and Fraud.
            This is a FACT: written in the record books
            The second fight was won by Pac. only knocked down was by Pac. Only true haters of Pac believes JMM won that fight.
            First fight. it was a draw. But one of the judge admitted later on that he couldn't count. which could have given a point higher to Pac.

            I told you stop swallowing Fraud's juices, it's bad for your brain, it makes you dumber. And by the looks of it you have had too much of it already.

            OST A KNOWN EXCUSE USED BY A BOXER TO DUCKED THE BEST FIGHTER OF HIS GENERATION.
            ****head, they are fighting at catch-weight, because Pacquiao is too scared to meet a lightweight in the middle.

            Even though 140 is Manny's best weight, he will not fight the 40yo midget unless Marquez jumps TWO DIVISIONS to welter.

            The answer why, is obvious, you fkn moron.....

            " However, this fight only makes sense to me if it takes place at junior welterweight (and I would hope Marquez would weigh-in under 140 pounds). Why Pacquiao and company refuse to even consider fighting Marquez at 140 pounds (instead of the 144 or 147 they stipulate) is a very good question. The answer is obvious: they want every conceivable advantage against their aging but still-dangerous nemesis "

            http://www.ringtv.com/blog/2630/doug...riday_mailbag/

            Your boy is a hypejob who ducked Marquez for three years, and will only fight him now that THE ENTIRE WORLD can see that JMM looks old, fat, and slow, above 140.

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            • Pac-fans..... lower standards than a $5 whore.

              What a joke you clowns are.

              You fkn ******s, a catch-weight is where both fighters meet at middle ground, in order to even up the fight.

              Pacquiao " conceded " a weight that he has never actually made himself

              " middle ground " to Pacquiao, is when you demand a higher weight than you ever actually made yourself, one which YOU KNOW disadvantages your opponent.

              " middle ground " would be 140, coincidentally, Mannys best weight.

              But " no way, we cannot risk the possibility that Marquez could enter the ring at a weight at which he might still be dangerous, lets take no chances and rip him right out of his comfort zone, because you will still be ok at 145 Manny ".

              If my boy ever pulled any cowardly **** like that, I would roast him alive.

              Only ******ed pac-**** could consider that fight anything more than a pointless exhibition match.

              You ridiculous clowns are a joke

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