Comments Thread For: Mayweather-Pacquiao: Arum Says 'No Issues' Remain

[LeadUppercut]

http://www.wada-ama.org/en/Anti-Dopi...List-of-NADOs/

you're a decent poster, so why act like a clown?

Chill kid, I said that was unverified, and I said let me know if that was incorrect.

Let them do the " testing " then, although it will be interesting to see who they contract to do the lab work.

[LeadUppercut]

Delusional and pathetic Floyd fans.

Why would you say something like that ?

The post he replied to had nothing to do with Mayweather, it never mentioned him once.

Is Floyd Mayweather the very last thing you think about before you nod off to sleep at night?

Instead of ripping Jay for supporting a particular post, why dont you refute the comments that you actually disagreed with?

Pacquiao ducked the Marquez rematch !!

Everyone who has suggested that Marquez ducked a Pacquiao rematch, give yourself an uppercut.

Even though Marquez has been very vocal about wanting Pacquiao, and even though it is common knowledge that Arum reneged on his original offer of $1.5mil and low-balled Juan by offering him $750k, some *******s have actually insinuated that JMM ducked Manny to fight Chris John.

WRONG !!

FACT: Pacquiao ducked Marquez, end of story, just like he ducked Mosley.....
http://www.fighthype.com/pages/conte...de50886b20d4a5

Koncz needs to learn to shut his mouth, bless him

As I have said, it is all about timing and the manipulation of advantages.

Marquez at 130? = NO WAY

Diaz? = done, so YES

Hoya at 154? = NO WAY..... shrink-wrapped Hoya at 145? = YES

Hatton = done, so YES

Prime Cotto = NO WAY..... damaged, faded, Cotto at catchweight? = YES

Prime Margarito at 154 = NO WAY..... faded, cheato at catchweight? = YES

#1 WW Mosley (twice) = NO WAY... old shot Shane? = YES

Marquez at welter? = YOU BET, just what we've been waiting for.

FACT: Ortiz is the third consecutive fighter that Mayweather has fought that Pacquiao ducked first.

[tatangb45]

Delusional and pathetic Floyd fans. Stuck with a coward and desperate for attention, while the rest of the world admires the boxer they hate most. Sad, but they deserve it.

To Leaduppercut, aka Brother Jay,
Above is the whole quote, addressed to you and the rest of the Floyd fanatics.
Trying to reason with you guys is like trying to extract some sense from Floyd senior. Pointless...

[LeadUppercut]

To Leaduppercut, aka Brother Jay,
Above is the whole quote, addressed to you and the rest of the Floyd fanatics.
Trying to reason with you guys is like trying to extract some sense from Floyd senior. Pointless...

Extract some sense out of these questions.....

1.) why didnt Pac simply call Mayweathers " bluff " and take a harmless little blood test, like Mosley did, like Ortiz did, and like any other clean athlete would ?

2.) which one of Pacquiao's 8 ridiculous excuses did you believe ?

3.) if Pac had accepted the very same deal back in Dec 2009 that he recently stated he will accept NOW, then there would be no need whatsoever for a lawsuit..... so how can you possibly blame Mayweather?

4.) why did Pacquiao not initiate legal action against Malinaggi and Cintron, who both made far worse statements than Mayweather?

5.) why did Pacquiao not mention his objections to USADA back in Dec 2009?

6.) why did Pacquiao not mention his objections to USADA about 5 months ago when he publicly agreed to FULL testing?

7.) why did Pacquiao require a grand total of 8 ridiculous excuses, requiring 8 different excuses means that none of them are genuine?

8.) Based on the points above, is it not plainly obvious that Pacquiao has been ducking Mayweather for 3 years, just like he ducked Marquez for 3 years.....
http://www.fighthype.com/pages/conte...de50886b20d4a5

[AntonTheMeh]

just get the ****ing thing done.

[AceBoeing]

" credible people " ?

What ?

Like Bob Arum and that fkn idiot Wilbon ?

here is more credible people for you!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsCdR...eature=related

[AceBoeing]

extract some sense out of these questions.....

1.) why didnt pac simply call mayweathers " bluff " and take a harmless little blood test, like mosley did, like ortiz did, and like any other clean athlete would ?

who the fcuk is ortiz?!?!? Of course his going to say yes to what anything fraud wants. Hence the 40 mil to fraud and 5 mil to ortiz
who the fcuk is moseley?!?! This guy has been trying to fight him ever since moseley beat dlh the second time and his been running. Of course he'll agree to fight. Hence the 20 mill for fraud and 7.5 for moseley
comparing pac to moseley and ortiz in terms of negotiations powers is like comparing yourself to the president of your country

2.) which one of pacquiao's 8 ridiculous excuses did you believe ?

the excuse about not taking the blood test?!?!?!? Can you add a link to this question please it seem like you don't know how to count

3.) if pac had accepted the very same deal back in dec 2009 that he recently stated he will accept now, then there would be no need whatsoever for a lawsuit..... So how can you possibly blame mayweather?

wow... These is the ******est logic i've seen in these board. You are saying that because pac didn't accept the test fraud has the right to slander pac's name and reputation. I told you once lay off frauds juice. You become more ****** everyday.

4.) why did pacquiao not initiate legal action against malinaggi and cintron, who both made far worse statements than mayweather?

because who is malinaggi and cintron. They might not even have enough money to pay for their own lawyers. He could get 10 mill from fraud or maybe more and he can get about 1 mill from mallinaggi and cintron combined. Point being is fraud has more money..

5.) why did pacquiao not mention his objections to usada back in dec 2009?

because he did not agree to the blood testing just yet

6.) why did pacquiao not mention his objections to usada about 5 months ago when he publicly agreed to full testing?

because usada does not have jurisdiction in the philippines, which means he has to train here in the us the whole time. Which he does not normally do. Which will give mayweather another advantage. Why cant fraud agree to another tester that has jurisdiction in the philippines?

7.) why did pacquiao require a grand total of 8 ridiculous excuses, requiring 8 different excuses means that none of them are genuine?

that is a great opinion from a floydie. How the fcuk do you know that is not genuine. Cause he has a tat?!?!? You're are not the guy who do you know

8.) based on the points above, is it not plainly obvious that pacquiao has been ducking mayweather for 3 years, just like he ducked marquez for 3 years.....
i love this last question/statement.
First, he ducked marquez for three years. This is the fact about marquez he does not deserved that third fight. People wanted it so they get it..
Fact: Pac beat marquez twice already. No matter who said marquez won both fight. May your boy brother jay or atlas. Ill repeat it.
Pac beat marquez twice. Thats a fact

ducking mayweather?!?!?! Are you ******. This guy does not want to get in the ring with manny. Hence the ost demand. A test no boxing sanctioning committee is asking. A test only two people in the whole boxing sport has taken it.

http://www.fighthype.com/pages/conte...de50886b20d4a5

ost a known excuse a boxer used to avoid a fight with the best fighter of his generation.

[Mana$$aMauler]

Extract some sense out of these questions.....

1.) why didnt Pac simply call Mayweathers " bluff " and take a harmless little blood test, like Mosley did, like Ortiz did, and like any other clean athlete would ?only b1tches bend over on command

2.) which one of Pacquiao's 8 ridiculous excuses did you believe ?
what excuses?

3.) if Pac had accepted the very same deal back in Dec 2009 that he recently stated he will accept NOW, then there would be no need whatsoever for a lawsuit..... so how can you possibly blame Mayweather?
Back in 2009 only Mayweather was crying about testing, boxing didn't require such a thing.

4.) why did Pacquiao not initiate legal action against Malinaggi and Cintron, who both made far worse statements than Mayweather?
the other 2 would fight Manny without tests


5.) why did Pacquiao not mention his objections to USADA back in Dec 2009?
Who the **** heard of USADA back in 2009?

6.) why did Pacquiao not mention his objections to USADA about 5 months ago when he publicly agreed to FULL testing?
Show us any link Pac mentioning USADA, OR YOU ARE A LIAR!

7.) why did Pacquiao require a grand total of 8 ridiculous excuses, requiring 8 different excuses means that none of them are genuine?
Let's see how many excuses you come up with if you're asked the same exact question thousands of times for years?

8.) Based on the points above, is it not plainly obvious that Pacquiao has been ducking Mayweather for 3 years, just like he ducked Marquez for 3 years.....Ducked? He's going to be fighting Marquez a 3rd time already, Marquez is just looking for a payday, heck even Barrera and Morales didn't care to fight Marquez...

http://www.fighthype.com/pages/conte...de50886b20d4a5

[Brother Jay]

Part 1

Originally Posted by leaduppercut
extract some sense out of these questions.....

1.) why didnt pac simply call mayweathers " bluff " and take a harmless little blood test, like mosley did, like ortiz did, and like any other clean athlete would ?

who the fcuk is ortiz?!?!? Of course his going to say yes to what anything fraud wants. Hence the 40 mil to fraud and 5 mil to ortiz

Ortiz is the WBC WW champion of the world who handed former undefeated WBC champion Andre Berto his first loss. Pacquiao could have faced Berto, a young undefeated champion, but because he was undefeated Pacquiao, Roach and Arum could not quantify the risk and therefore Berto then and Ortiz now are not candidates for the catchweight king.

who the fcuk is moseley?!?! This guy has been trying to fight him ever since moseley beat dlh the second time and his been running. Of course he'll agree to fight. Hence the 20 mill for fraud and 7.5 for moseley. comparing pac to moseley and ortiz in terms of negotiations powers is like comparing yourself to the president of your country[/b]

This was a garbled mess. Mosley was the #1 Lw and then the #1 WW after beating DLH and then again after knocking out Margarito. Mayweather tried to fight Mosley since LW. Real fans know this. Pacquiao refused to even consider a match with Mosley UNTIL Mosley lost to Mayweather. The evidence is still on Youtube.

Pacquiao is not negotiating from a position of strength. Pac is not the draw. Pac is not a top WW. Pac has NEVER been a top WW. Pac has never beaten better than a 4th ranked WW. Pacquiao is fighting Marquez 4 years too late because HE HIMSELF AVOIDED THAT FIGHT. Mayweather is fighting a young, 24 year old WW champion because that man is the #2 ranked fighter at WW.

You comparing those two matches is like me comparing you to a monkey. And I have too much respect for mokeys to do that.

2.) which one of pacquiao's 8 ridiculous excuses did you believe ?

the excuse about not taking the blood test?!?!?!? Can you add a link to this question please it seem like you don't know how to count

Pacquiao agreed to take everything in an effort to make the fight and then b!tched out at the signing table. How could anyone but a willing idiot believe anything Manny says passed that point? Oops ... I forgot .. I'm dealing with peasants.

3.) if pac had accepted the very same deal back in dec 2009 that he recently stated he will accept now, then there would be no need whatsoever for a lawsuit..... So how can you possibly blame mayweather?

wow... These is the ******est logic i've seen in these board. You are saying that because pac didn't accept the test fraud has the right to slander pac's name and reputation. I told you once lay off frauds juice. You become more ****** everyday.

That's not what he said. What he said was that Pacquiao's refusal to take tests designed to insure fairness has raised the eyebrows of the entire boxing world and the stigma from that refusal is being seen as backlash. That's Pacquiao's entire case in court, and unless he can prove damages his lawsuit is an exercise in futility. If Pacquiao would have accepted ALL the terms back then like Floyd did the fight would have been over with already and all this nonsense wouldn't still be dragging out.

Three years of excuses from Team Pacquiao. Arum gives excuses. Koncz gives excuses. Pacquiao gives excuses. And if you want to challenge the fact that Manny himself hasn't given an excuses, then explain why he agreed to EVERYTHING then went back on his word. A man is only as good as his word. That's why he let's his pappy Arum talk for him and the grown ups table.

4.) why did pacquiao not initiate legal action against malinaggi and cintron, who both made far worse statements than mayweather?

because who is malinaggi and cintron. They might not even have enough money to pay for their own lawyers. He could get 10 mill from fraud or maybe more and he can get about 1 mill from mallinaggi and cintron combined. Point being is fraud has more money..

Here we get to see classic peasant logic. AceBoeing is now stating that it wasn't the statement that offended Pacquiao, it was the bank account of the man who said what many other have said and continue to say that has ruffled Pacquiao's chicken feathers. Pacquiao is a peasant in and out of the ring.

5.) why did pacquiao not mention his objections to usada back in dec 2009?

because he did not agree to the blood testing just yet

LMAO! So if Mayweather has suggested back in 2009 that his Uncle Roger was to do the blood testing, are you suggesting that Pacquiao, Roach and Arum wouldn't have objected to that then despite Pacquiao not agreeing to blood tests at that point? Hahahahaha ... more of that peasant logic.

6.) why did pacquiao not mention his objections to usada about 5 months ago when he publicly agreed to full testing?

because usada does not have jurisdiction in the philippines, which means he has to train here in the us the whole time. Which he does not normally do. Which will give mayweather another advantage. Why cant fraud agree to another tester that has jurisdiction in the philippines?

Floyd has asked for USADA from the beginning. This is NOT a new issue. Its simply the latest tactic Team Pacquiao employed to stall that inevitable ass beating Pacquiao is in for. Mayweather is not only on top, he's #1 fighting the #2. Pacquiao doesn't face top WWs. One can be certain that Manny hopes fellow southpaw Ortiz does something .. ANYTHING to give ****-Roach a glimmer of hope to come up with a plan to defeat a fighter who is winning and isn't dehydrated.

7.) why did pacquiao require a grand total of 8 ridiculous excuses, requiring 8 different excuses means that none of them are genuine?

that is a great opinion from a floydie. How the fcuk do you know that is not genuine. Cause he has a tat?!?!? You're are not the guy who do you know

Well .. if a man is afraid of needles, he definitely is NOT going to get tattoos. In the same sense, if a man is GENUINELY acrophobic, he isn't going to go skydiving. That is, if he is truly and genuinely afraid. That is science, not an opinion. Peasants have difficulty distinguishing between fact and fiction.

[Brother Jay]

Part 2

8.) based on the points above, is it not plainly obvious that pacquiao has been ducking mayweather for 3 years, just like he ducked marquez for 3 years.....

i love this last question/statement.

First, he ducked marquez for three years. This is the fact about marquez he does not deserved that third fight. People wanted it so they get it..
Fact: Pac beat marquez twice already. No matter who said marquez won both fight. May your boy brother jay or atlas. Ill repeat it.
Pac beat marquez twice. Thats a fact

Manny Pacquiao beat Juan Manuel Marquez in the same fashion that Paul Williams beat Erislandy Lara. There are official wins, and then there are wins were the fans know better. You want to see how full of **** you are? Watch it and weep, peasants.

ducking mayweather?!?!?! Are you ******. This guy does not want to get in the ring with manny. Hence the ost demand. A test no boxing sanctioning committee is asking. A test only two people in the whole boxing sport has taken it.[/b]

If Mayweather didn't want to beat Manny, why would he agree to all of Manny's terms back in 2009? If Mayweather wanted to avoid Manny Pacquiao, why would he compromise on the original demand of testing up until the fight to a 14 day cutoff? If its Mayweather who has held up this fight, then why is it Manny's reluctance to sign the contract that's the REAL reason why this fight hasn't already happened? ALL TERMS HAVE BEEN REACHED!!!! PACQUIAO WILL NOT SIGN THE CONTRACT!!!!

ost a known excuse a boxer used to avoid a fight with the best fighter of his generation.

PED testing has been done before by greater boxers than Manny Pacquiao. Evander Holyfield is a greater boxer than Manny Pacquiao ever was. Holyfield submitted to Mike Tyson's demands without flinching because he actually wanted the fight and did everything to make it happen.

MANNY PACQUIAO IS ONLY ABLE TO STAY RELEVANT BY ALLOWING BOB ARUM TO SET UP FIGHTS AGAINST 5TH RANKED FIGHTERS WHO CUT WEIGHT TO FACE HIM. MARGARITO WAS BANNED AND PACQUIAO HAD ARUM PAYOFF TEXAS TO LET ANTONIO COMPETE FOR A VACANT JRMW BELT THAT HE WAS NEVER IN POSITION TO COMPETE FOR.

PACQUIAO WOULD HAVE BEEN AN AFTERTHOUGHT BY NOW IF HE WOULD HAVE MANNED UP AND FACED MAYWEATHER INSTEAD MARQUEZ.

Pacquiao could have faced:

DLH @170lbs like Floyd did
Hatton when he was undefeated like Floyd did.
Cotto when he was undefeated like Margarito did.
Margarito before he was banned and #1.
Mosley when Shane was the #1 WW.

Pacquiao ABSOLUTELY refused to face these men when they were on top and winning. Pacquiao approached the above men ONLY once they lost so that they would agree to all of his terms for a huge amount of money.

No 5th ranked has ever received millions upon millions for fighting a man not even truly competing at the WW limit. Yet DLH, Hatton, Cotto, Margarito and Mosley did because they all had BIG NAMES that could make Pacquiao look good on paper.

Pacquiao would NEVER have dared to fight these guys when they were on top. Otherwise AT LEAST ONCE he would have. Just ONCE!!!

Now, 4 years after the rematch should have happened, Manny is targeting Marquez?? That's the big "challenge" that Manny is taking on? People belittled the win over Mosley because he was old. Marquez is damn nearly as old AND HE'S FCUKING SMALLER!!!

Floyd should fight Ortiz and then go after Jan Zaveck and Viacheslav Senchenko
to unify the division. That in itself would be greater than anything that any current boxer has done. Unifying a division after reigning on top for 15 years would put Mayweather as the greatest of this era hands down.

The funny part is that Mayweather can do that WITHOUT the lowly WBO belt. Becoming the WBC, WBA & IBF champion would effectively put Mayweather as not only the #1 WW, but as the #1 boxer in the world without having to do a thing after that to prove or defend that distinction.

Pacquiao is doing to himself what Kostya Tszyu did to himself: He's a great fighter whose legacy will forever suffer because his ability is NOT THE SUM TOTAL OF HIS LEGACY. Tszyu was a great 140lb champion, but he never did great things. Being a catchweight king isn't going to cut it in an argument about who the greatest of this era was.

The criteria for being the greatest of ANY era is and always will be:

Who a boxer fought

At what point in their careers did he fight them and why

What rank they held to measure the weight of a win over them

How many #1s you fought in your career

How many different divisions did you face the #1

How many champions you fought in your career

How long your reigned at the top in your career

How many losses you have

At what point those losses came in your career

In what condition were your best opponents in when you fought them(meaning were they passed their prime, were they trying to make a comeback, were they made to cut weight, were they fresh out of prison, were they coming of wins or losses, etc)

Pacquiao's legacy is one of convenience. He used vacant titles to claim he was #1 in 5 divisions. He used catchweights to make a case for being a WW elite while stipulating his opponent's weight. He "hired" a banned bum to lose a vacant jrMW belt to him. He avoided Mosley for 3 years. He avoided Marquez for 4 years.

If you silly peasants think that history won't show Pacquiao's peasant legacy for what it is then you're in for a rude awakening. I suspect though that Pacquiao will lose before that point and then only the crickets while be chirping in peasantville. That is if Pacquiao ever finds the balls to keep his word and follow through with signing the contract.