How come so many so called Boxing fans think that the Slick Boxer types are skilled?

[skillswin]

floyd is defense slick
cant attack, doesnt have the power ot skill to sustain an attack

pacquiao is the opposite
doesnt defend, goes toe to toe but can run over motherfathers like its funny

Floyd Mayweather Jr. technical annihilation...



Pacquiao doesnt defend (because he don't know how) goes toe to toe but Erik Morales ran over him

[ablindwatchmakr]

But, Lamotta and JCC were skillful fighters no? Much more than say Judah and Alexander....Matter of fact they were probably arguably had better defense than both fighters especially on the inside no?

Lets not even compare Duran to these 2 guys. But, would you say that Duran skills is just as Floyd or Hopkins? Maybe even more so?

It was a perfectly placed left hook that Hatton didn't even see--he practically had his hands down. That seemed like a fight where Hatton was just ****ty more than Pac was skilled, but I could be wrong. Pac is skilled though, not trying to argue that.

[ModernTalking]

Floyd Mayweather Jr. technical annihilation...



Pacquiao doesnt defend (because he don't know how) goes toe to toe but Erik Morales ran over him

Floyd must be on the Arixa shake

[MonsieurGeorges]

If they were slick it wouldn't be occasional.

Pac dropped Hattong with a right hand while evading a punch from Hatton.

That what slick fighters do. Pac did it that instant. But, just because it was an occasion that it happen. Doesn't mean that they're slick.

i didn't know the standards for slickness were written in stone somewhere.

it does mean that they were being slick in the instant then? like Pac can turn on that slickness when he needs to land a counter right hand but for the other 11 rounds he isn't slick at all? hmm

i think its purely a matter of perspective, this perceived "slickness" and "skill" are actually the same thing which is basically the ability to execute with precision, athleticism and perhaps an element of deception. its just that certain things leave unique impressions on people, and they will be compelled to call one fighter slick and one fighter a swarmer. there are different styles but they all fall under the larger umbrella of overall boxing ability, which can be measured with wins and losses for the most part

[AntonTheMeh]

What made Judah slick? He was flashy, he had speed. But, don't mistake flashy with slick he was never.

He was slick as a prime JMM, he was as slick as Pacquiao.

He just wasn't slick but flashy.

to me, the term 'slick' implies the ability to make his opponent miss. he's had that. there's a reason why early on some thought he could have been pernell with more power.

[jrosales13]

to me, the term 'slick' implies the ability to make his opponent miss. he's had that. there's a reason why early on some thought he could have been pernell with more power.

Max Kellerman thought that

He got hit too much even earlier in his career. He really didn't have that "make opponent miss" thing.

[p4p-champ]

But, Lamotta and JCC were skillful fighters no? Much more than say Judah and Alexander....Matter of fact they were probably arguably had better defense than both fighters especially on the inside no?

Lets not even compare Duran to these 2 guys. But, would you say that Duran skills is just as Floyd or Hopkins? Maybe even more so?

Lomatta and JCC certiainly were skillfull fighters in their own way, and yes more skillfull than Judah and Alexander. Like it was already mentioned, just because you try to be an elusive, 'slick', figter, doesn't mean you are. While Judah has had the all the tools be be great, he never put it all toegether. It still amazes how this guy keeps getting big oppertunities.

As far Duran is concerned, the man is legendary, mostly for his power and longevity. But, I wouldn't go as far as to say that his skills are up there with Mayweathers. Mayweathers skills are in the Class of Willie Pep, Pernel Whitaker, Nicolino Locche, these type of 'slick', elusive, master boxers don't come around very often.

[jrosales13]

Lomatta and JCC certinaly were skillfull fighters, and yes more skillfull than Judah and Alexander. Like it was already mentioned, just because you try to be an elusive, 'slick' figter, doesn't mean you are. While Judah has had the all the tools be be great, he never put it all toegether. It still amazes how this guy keeps getting big oppertunities.

As far Duran is concerned, the man is legendary, mostly for his power and longevity. But, I wouldn't go as far as to say that his skills are up there with Mayweathers. Mayweathers skills are in the Class of Willie Pep, Pernel Whitaker, Nicolino Locche, these type of 'slick', elusive, master boxers don't come around very often.

But, Duran was a "come forward, swarmer" but at the same time evaded, slipped, ducked, and counter punch all at the same time while coming forward and being a swarmer.

How's that not being as skilled as someone as Floyd, B-Hop and others that you mentioned?

Wouldn't it take more skills to do the same thing with an offensive mindset than it would be doing it with a defensive mindset like the other skilled slick fighters do?

[AllEyesOpen]

The "slick" style is extremely hard to master, but makes for a long career when you don't take punches on the chin so often. I understand the ts talking about guys like Duran & Lamotta having underrated boxing abiliity. Guys like JCC had a weak defense but solid chin.

Cotto can box and use the ring very well, but has no defense, he doesn't block many punches and he never moves his head.

[Boxingtech718v2]

Because Skill is about using your mind to overcome obstacles.

Anybody can be stronger, faster, etc than somebody else but it takes a special fighter to outsmart his opposition.