Is Ortiz the hardest puncher from 140-147?

[Kagami Taiga]

That's what I'm saying about Maidana. He hasn't managed to knock his last two opponents down, let alone knock them out, though he did have Khan seriously injured; but Khan's chin isn't exactly granite. It seems like Maidana punishes guys the way Margarito did, as opposed to a Donaire style power, which I rate more highly stylistically speaking (not saying Donaire punches harder than Maidana).

maidana is tricky. but imo, he doesnt have the type of power. the more i reflect on it, the more it seems to me the reason he was able to hurt ortiz the way he did may have had more to do with ortiz's conditioning than anything else. i mean he couldnt even knock out a shot to **** chop chop.

[patpatpts]

hes not a very smart boxer, but power is something he definitely has.

i seen him fight with urango and that latino dude. he got power but i dont know about it at top lvl. i cant rely on fighter with power

Malinaggi... I didn't even notice that.

bro trippin

[ablindwatchmakr]

maidana is tricky. but imo, he doesnt have the type of power. the more i reflect on it, the more it seems to me the reason he was able to hurt ortiz the way he did may have had more to do with ortiz's conditioning than anything else. i mean he couldnt even knock out a shot to **** chop chop.

Exactly. People forget what kind of war Ortiz/Maidana was. They were trading huge shots one after another in what was one of the best fights of the year IMO. If ANYONE gets hit that many times by a decently strong puncher, they better be hurt.

[jrosales13]

i seen him fight with urango and that latino dude. he got power but i dont know about it at top lvl. i cant rely on fighter with power



bro trippin

Even though Bailey lost against Urango. He cracked Urango chin forever that night.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Either Bailey although he's one handed or Holt but he's not aggressive enough, poor workrate. Just going by whats being asked, I'm gonna say Holt, the way he snapped David Diaz's head back was insane. Just being able to punch with two hands is a plus.

I still don't know how lethal Ortiz's left hand is, it should be factored that a lot of Ortiz's knock downs are from pushes too, he pushes guys off balance while punching.

[Kagami Taiga]

Even though Bailey lost against Urango. He cracked Urango chin forever that night.

it seems so, because after that fight he lost to devon alexander. he went thru both berto and bailey without getting koed and got ktfo by alexander. dont make sense.

[jrosales13]

Now that I think of it...All the hype that Alexander got because of one damn uppercut. Was due because Bailey softened up Urango chin.

That shot was insane. Don't know how Urango got up from that one. Credit to his toughness.

[ablindwatchmakr]

Now that I think of it...All the hype that Alexander got because of one damn uppercut. Was due because Bailey softened up Urango chin.

That shot was insane. Don't know how Urango got up from that one. Credit to his toughness.

That was his career defining moment. Everything else is rather mediocre as far as I've seen.

[Doctor_Tenma]

2:20, Just insane

[ablindwatchmakr]

2:20, Just insane

How did Diaz remain on his feet?!