Is Ortiz the hardest puncher from 140-147?

[Trillz]

seems like we watched 2 different fights then

If I remember correctly, Ortiz's first knockdown of Berto was an accumulation of 4-6 punches that eventually overwhelmed him. The second was a clean, well located counter shot to the chin that Berto immediately recovered from. Berto's two knockdowns of Ortiz were clean, booming shots (especially the second) that rung Ortiz hard!
Props to Ortiz for surviving that and deservedly winning the fight, but I just feel Berto landed the more powerful shots of the two. That's just me...

[Larry the boss]

lol ur comment kind of funny lol

ur asking me if berto is glassed jawed then at the same post u say he got floored twice the dumbness of people

who has ortiz not knocked down?

[jrosales13]

I honestly think Mike Jones hits harder than Ortiz as well.

Bailey is the main power puncher in both divisions.

I would say Pac hits harder as well...

Ortiz does hit hard though.

And, Berto doesn't have a glass jaw don't be ridiculous. But, his chin is not made or iron either.

[Evil Abed]

I honestly think Mike Jones hits harder than Ortiz as well.

Bailey is the main power puncher in both divisions.

I would say Pac hits harder as well...

Ortiz does hit hard though.

And, Berto doesn't have a glass jaw don't be ridiculous. But, his chin is not made or iron either.

That's possible. Ortiz has only beat up Berto at 147.

You don't have to be a monster puncher for that.

Ask Collazo.

[ablindwatchmakr]

If I remember correctly, Ortiz's first knockdown of Berto was an accumulation of 4-6 punches that eventually overwhelmed him. The second was a clean, well located counter shot to the chin that Berto immediately recovered from. Berto's two knockdowns of Ortiz were clean, booming shots (especially the second) that rung Ortiz hard!
Props to Ortiz for surviving that and deservedly winning the fight, but I just feel Berto landed the more powerful shots of the two. That's just me...

He loads up on those shots and puts everything he has into them though. His power is not as consistent I think.

[Evil Abed]

I honestly think Mike Jones hits harder than Ortiz as well.

Bailey is the main power puncher in both divisions.

I would say Pac hits harder as well...

Ortiz does hit hard though.

And, Berto doesn't have a glass jaw don't be ridiculous. But, his chin is not made or iron either.

How about Kermit at 147?

[ablindwatchmakr]

I honestly think Mike Jones hits harder than Ortiz as well.

Bailey is the main power puncher in both divisions.

I would say Pac hits harder as well...

Ortiz does hit hard though.

And, Berto doesn't have a glass jaw don't be ridiculous. But, his chin is not made or iron either.

I think your right about this. If anything, Pac and Ortiz are nearly identical in power but I'm not sure I'd give Pac the edge. Ortiz needs a few more fights at welterweight before we will know anything though.

[jrosales13]

How about Kermit at 147?

Depending on how the move back down to 147 affects him. If it doesn't hurt his power than yes(I don't think it will but not 100% sure) then yes his power is up there. He's a legit power puncher. That's the one thing he does good.

And, I think he's fighting Antwone Smith in a couple weeks if I'm not mistaken. Smith is not a bad fighter. It's an interesting fight especially after the Molina fight.

[ablindwatchmakr]

How about Kermit at 147?

I really don't think Kermit will ever be a factor again though. What do you and Rosales think as far as top fighters of the division? Who are the top 5 guys in terms of power that are either champions or in title contention?

[viperz007]

who has ortiz not knocked down?

okay here dummy all i said is ortiz power aint tested yet @147

to confirm that his a hard puncher @ 147 because he knockdown berto twice is laughable

got what me talking about dumb dumb?