Chris John is a joke

**Wazaa..** · 07-31-2011, 04:27 PM

He's a top flight boxer, but I think he's had health issues lately and frankly, over the last few fights I've seen he looks a little bit shopworn to me.

I don't think its a matter of courage since he was man enough to fight the legendary JMM, but more so that his career is just winding down.

**ablindwatchmakr** · 07-31-2011, 04:36 PM

He needs to come on over here where the real fighters are so he can get knocked out. I'm sick of hearing about this guy. Every since I started following boxing a few years ago, I've heard about this mysterous guy over in Indonesia who is one of the top guys that never fights anybody...Why do they even mention his name? **** his belt. If someone takes all the other titles I will consider them undisputed champion.

**Spray_resistant** · 07-31-2011, 04:40 PM

Originally posted by ablindwatchmakr

He needs to come on over here where the real fighters are so he can get knocked out. I'm sick of hearing about this guy. Every since I started following boxing a few years ago, I've heard about this mysterous guy over in Indonesia who is one of the top guys that never fights anybody...Why do they even mention his name? **** his belt. If someone takes all the other titles I will consider them undisputed champion.

I think he has been WBA champion for like 8 years running and has something like 13-14 defenses, no wonder though.

He should just fight Gamboa or someone good and see what he really has.

**ablindwatchmakr** · 07-31-2011, 04:49 PM

Originally posted by Spray_resistant

I think he has been WBA champion for like 8 years running and has something like 13-14 defenses, no wonder though.

He should just fight Gamboa or someone good and see what he really has.

That's impressive longevity, but like you said, he needs to beat top fighters. Did he truly beat JMM, or was it a gift? Honestly, I don't care if he knocked him out, because there are so many good fighters at featherweight that he hasn't fought it's disgusting.

**Spray_resistant** · 07-31-2011, 04:50 PM

Originally posted by Lefthook10

John deserved the decison over JMM.

Not even with 2 point deductions, he was lost and confused in there with a great fighter like Marquez. The only round he even clearly win was the last round.

**Wazaa..** · 07-31-2011, 04:52 PM

I think that John is very good technically but he's very fragile physically. Rocky Juarez is someone people laugh at a lot but he does have legit power and I think those 2 fights with him really took a lot out of John.

**puga** · 07-31-2011, 04:55 PM

Originally posted by Lefthook10

John deserved the decison over JMM.

yes he did......

**Wazaa..** · 07-31-2011, 04:58 PM

Originally posted by Lefthook10

John won 8 rounds. His jab won him the fight. Both guys hardly threw anything and JMM was an ineffective agressor. JMM looks good counterpunching brawlers, put him in there with someone whos got boxing skills and he has trouble.

I had it 9 to 3 for JMM so even with the bogus hometown deductions John should've still lost but boxing isn't fair and the home guy always gets the robbery.

That fight wasn't even close if you actually pay attention. It was man against boy.

**ИATAS** · 07-31-2011, 04:59 PM

Originally posted by Wazaa..

I don't think its a matter of courage since he was man enough to fight the legendary JMM, but more so that his career is just winding down.

well, there are plenty of examples of a fighter who does something courageous then goes into hiding for a while. Felix Strum is a great example of that - took on Oscar, was a big underdog, then went back to Germany fighting weak opposition for many years never taking on a top MW.

Chris John is a joke