The Miguel Cotto that Mayweather Jr was avoiding

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Because if Mayweather didn't fight someone in the same division as him it is naturally his fault or his ducking.

100% of fans who started following the sport in 2007/2008 think Mayweather ducked Cotto because others say it.

Hell, even fans who followed the sport then say it.

Some fans who were following the sport then say he ducked Winky Wright for God's sake. Along with many other ridiculous names.

i say it because there is overwhelming evidence to support that claim.

he kinda did duck winky. he called him out and winky called his bluff. they agreed to terms but then mayweather demanded more money and a same day weigh in.

[IronDanHamza]

i say it because there is overwhelming evidence to support that claim.

he kinda did duck winky. he called him out and winky called his bluff. they agreed to terms but then mayweather demanded more money and a same day weigh in.

Well, he didn't. But whatever.

And no, he didn't duck Winky. Mayweather wanted 50-50 in a fight that would have been a career payday for both fighters. Winky said no to that. Mayweather simply did not duck Winky.

I'm openly a Mayweather fan and a big one at that but I'm not one of these fans who claim he fought everyone. He didn't.

I have said numerous times that Mayweather wanted no part of Margarito and openly avoided the fight and I strongly believe that.

Cotto didn't duck Floyd, at all. But, he was as keen on that fight as much as Floyd was....Not very.

[loomis]

hahahaha, the cotto that evangelista said wasnt ready to fight floyd.....and cotto never came back when he thought he was ready? hahahahahahahah,,,next question.

[jrosales13]

i say it because there is overwhelming evidence to support that claim.

he kinda did duck winky. he called him out and winky called his bluff. they agreed to terms but then mayweather demanded more money and a same day weigh in.

LOL @ same day weigh-in...Where did you get that from? Gary Shaw? That was nice way for Shaw to spin it just to save face.

Funny how Winky when he was "setting the record straight" 2 months later. Didn't mention a damn thing about same day weigh in...All he was talking about was that a career high payday wasn't enough to fight Floyd...I wonder why he didn't mention this same day weigh-in...Maybe because, that just not true and is something Shaw said just to say it...Could it be?

[IronDanHamza]

LOL @ same day weigh-in...Where did you get that from? Gary Shaw? That was nice way for Shaw to spin it just to save face.

Funny how Winky when he was "setting the record straight" 2 months later. Didn't mention a damn thing about same day weigh in...All he was talking about was that a career high payday wasn't enough to fight Floyd...I wonder why he didn't mention this same day weigh-in...Maybe because, that just not true and is something Shaw said just to say it...Could it be?

I like this one but my favourite is "Floyd offered Winky a 80-20 split...and Winky accepted! ( ) , and then , Mayweather said no!" That one is hilarious and I don't know where it came from.

To me, it seems that people want Mayweather to duck people, even if he didn't. Strange

[daggum]

LOL @ same day weigh-in...Where did you get that from? Gary Shaw? That was nice way for Shaw to spin it just to save face.

Funny how Winky when he was "setting the record straight" 2 months later. Didn't mention a damn thing about same day weigh in...All he was talking about was that a career high payday wasn't enough to fight Floyd...I wonder why he didn't mention this same day weigh-in...Maybe because, that just not true and is something Shaw said just to say it...Could it be?

yes it could be made up. anything can be made up. just because he didn't mention it doesn't mean it didn't happen. we will never know because boxing is the most corrupt "sport" around. people say a lot of crap that makes no sense like floyd saying cotto lived too far away. maybe that was a nice way for floyd to spin not fighting cotto? why would he make up something so ****** to not fight the best opponent and make a huge payday? we will never know. it's not like he was calling cotto out and cotto was saying "herp derp floyd lives too far away i can't fight him" he got upset when anyone even mentioned cotto as a legit fight.

[Lords]

Seriously, how many times do we have to go over Cotto and his legacy.

1. Cotto was a very good fighter. Arguably HOF worthy. He is NOT an ATG. Whether or not he is a "great of this era" depends on your criteria.

2. Cotto is NOT at the same level as Pac OR Floyd. Period.

3. Floyd was never scared of Cotto.

4. Cotto was a great welterweight, but Cotto has ducked everyone that is dangerous at 154. Fact.

5. Strugg, stop with the silly Cotto threads and just do what you really want to do, which is sing hymns to your god Manny Pacquiao.

What else needs to be said?

This made me laugh out loud.

[daggum]

I like this one but my favourite is "Floyd offered Winky a 80-20 split...and Winky accepted! ( ) , and then , Mayweather said no!" That one is hilarious and I don't know where it came from.

To me, it seems that people want Mayweather to duck people, even if he didn't. Strange

i don't care about the winky fight because they were 2 divisions apart so that was just ******ed to begin with. but he went out of his way to avoid fighting cotto so badly but you pretend like it was just a coincidence and bad luck that the fight never happened.

[IronDanHamza]

i don't care about the winky fight because they were 2 divisions apart so that was just ******ed to begin with. but he went out of his way to avoid fighting cotto so badly but you pretend like it was just a coincidence and bad luck that the fight never happened.

I don't particularly care about the Winky fight either but it's simply an outright lie to suggest Mayweather ducked him. If it was anyone's fault it was Winky's.

I pretend like it was a coincidence? And how is that? I'm not one of these new, senseless idiots you are used to talking to, I don't let Mayweather off for his bull**** and know for an absolute fact he hasn't pulled his weight to make all the fights out there. I have been following him since the 90's and followed his uncle way before that.

The fact of the matter is Mayweather did not duck all the fight you would like to think he ducked.

And in terms of the Cotto fight I don't pretend anything. I don't even blame Cotto.

I blame both Mayweather and Cotto, both of them were being conservative with their comp at WW at the time and both of them did not push their weight to make the fight so I blame both of them for not pushing for the fight more. I.e Margarito, who truley WANTED the fight with Mayweather. Unlike Mayweather who simply outright didn't.

[jrosales13]

yes it could be made up. anything can be made up. just because he didn't mention it doesn't mean it didn't happen. we will never know because boxing is the most corrupt "sport" around. people say a lot of crap that makes no sense like floyd saying cotto lived too far away. maybe that was a nice way for floyd to spin not fighting cotto? why would he make up something so ****** to not fight the best opponent and make a huge payday? we will never know.

You comparing apples to oranges right now. Because, there was never any negotiations involved between Cotto and Floyd during their 147 days. This is quite different from Floyd-Winky since the latter actually had negotiations take place.

Also again if whole same day weigh-in was an issue you would have think it be mentioned as a reason why the fight didn't get made when winky was SETTING THE RECORD STRAIGHT FFS's. The main and only issue that was brought up when he was SETTING THE RECORD STRAIGHT was money and money alone. In a fight where he was already getting a career high payday mind you.

Also Gary Shaw after saying the whole same day weigh-in crap...Just 4 days after didn't mentioned again. He mentioned money once against as being the motive. Just 4 days after forgot about the same day weigh-in claim and talked money.


Again you would think if Winky called his bluff...Which he didn't mind you. And, the Floyd camp change the goal post by demanding a same day weigh-in(which I doubt because only Shaw said this and just said once ever) you would think that Shaw would have said it 4 days later or Winky would have said it when he was SETTING THE RECORD STRAIGHT 2 months later.

Since neither ever mentioned again. Especially Wright when he was setting the record straight. Then I have come to the conclusion that the same day weigh-in demanding actually wasn't brought up or an issue.