Comments Thread For: Martinez's Trainer: Mayweather The Toughest Bout For Us

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sergio is clearly bigger than margarito. all you have to do is look at their frames - anybody can deduce that. AND, like i said, tell sergio to come down to 150 like margarito did. if he's a "JMW" like everybody on here is saying, then why can't he come down 4 extra pounds? 150 is already way too high for pacsmash.

I am sick of the Manny-circus.

I an sick of the guy who will not fight anyone dangerous without a catchweight.

I am sick of the guy who initiated the new 150lb " division ".

I am sick of the guy who refused to rematch a lightweight until he jumped two divisions to welter, but will not defend his own JMW title against a genuine JMW opponent.

I am sick of his whiney fans and their incredibly low standards.

I m sick of the very definition of a paper champ.

The sooner that hypejob retires the better.

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wait, not the super6 winner...i'd first like to see martinez against bute, than the loser of the froch/ward...then after that, he can fight the winner of the froch/ward fight...

martinez needs to stop this calling out of welterweights...he no longer is a welterweight...grow some balls and see what you can do in the supermiddleweight martinez...i bet if the competition at super middleweight werent as talent rich as it is, i bet the move up to super middleweight wouldve already happened for martinez...but no, martinez knows he wont own the super middleweight, thats why he aint moving up

And I am sick of biased fanboy rubbish, like this

Martinez is a large JMW who punches above his weight.

Mayweather and Pacquiao have both won titles at JMW.

The fight would be held at 154.

It is absurd that you are suggesting that a large JMW jump two divisions to fight guys who have fought at LHW, but do not think that Manny should have to defend his JMW title against a genuine JMW opponent.

Ridiculous fanboy rubbish.

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Truth about the fact is, I'm willing to bet that Manny would have fought SLOW ASS Margarito regardless, Margarito could have been a super MW, and the media would have been hyping it up as "Manny is going to be a SMW champion"
(He's the greatest fighter of all time!!!)

I think the only clear reason why Manny won't fight Martinez, is because he knows it would be a ass whooping.

Absolutely.

Pac will fight for Sergio's JMW title, but he will not fight Sergio

Ducked.... Him.... Like.... A .... B1tch !!

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C'mon dawg, keep it 100 and stop dropping oranges into the apple cart. Has Martinez fought at 154 somewhat recently? Answer is Yes. Has Martinez ever fought at 168? Answer is No, notta, never. So by your logic then why just stop at the aforementioned Froch, Kessler, Ward and Bute? Let's add BHop, Dawson, Pascal and Cloud into the mix. Hell since we're on a roll let's just ask Martinez to gain 40 lbs on the scale and challenge one of the Klits.

Dude holds the "real" green strap for the second most highly touted division in Boxing's entire history, and you're begging him to go up 8 lbs just to watch him get bodied. Whatever man.

Great post man, you nailed it.

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In a lot of ways Martinez is the boxing diehards' champ b/c he beat Pavlik, whereby the latter and Arum held the middleweight belts hostage for damn near 2 yrs with fake staph breakouts, several outright ducks (insert Williams and Abraham here), and the fact that HBO prematurely called this Youngstown polished club fighter, "The Centerpiece of American Boxing."

Now on to your claims that Martinez is calling out Manny at an "unfair weight", are you serious? Sergio never asked Manny to come up to 160, it was actually at 154. Didn't Manny win a world title at 154? Yeah thought so and don't hide behind the scale being at 151 b/c if that belt goes around your waste then you're recognized at 154 plain & simple. Oh and why are you, my friendly neighborhood *******, saying for Martinez to come down to 150? Manny fought Margo at 151 but I get it, let's shave another pound off of the scale b/c our Pinoy idol is allowed to play on a kiddie 8 foot rim while the rest play regulation height. I get it now! Pass the ball dude cuz you throwing up bricks with this crackhead argument.

but... but... but... but... but... but...

You are just a hater !!

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This is what really p1sses me off about Pacquiao and the Martinez situation.

The situation where.....

* Manny willl fight for Sergio's title
* Manny will fight a guy who beat Sergio
* Manny will not fight Sergio

..... is the very same template for " success " that Team Pacquiao have employed since, at least, the Marquez fight back in 2008.

Pacquiao is feeding on old men, faded champions, and bums.

They have cherry-picked, old, slow, plodding, come-forward guys, and Martinez simply does not qualify..... which is why Pacquiao will not fight him.

It is a joke that Pacquiao fanboys cannot see that, you guys are idiots.

Here, Freddie Roach admits that they manipulated advantages with Hoya/Hatton/Cotto, and picked those guys because they were vulnerable..... although how anyone cannot plainly see that is exactly what they did to Cotto, simply amazes me.

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In a lot of ways Martinez is the boxing diehards' champ b/c he beat Pavlik, whereby the latter and Arum held the middleweight belts hostage for damn near 2 yrs with fake staph breakouts, several outright ducks (insert Williams and Abraham here), and the fact that HBO prematurely called this Youngstown polished club fighter, "The Centerpiece of American Boxing."

Now on to your claims that Martinez is calling out Manny at an "unfair weight", are you serious? Sergio never asked Manny to come up to 160, it was actually at 154. Didn't Manny win a world title at 154? Yeah thought so and don't hide behind the scale being at 151 b/c if that belt goes around your waste then you're recognized at 154 plain & simple. Oh and why are you, my friendly neighborhood *******, saying for Martinez to come down to 150? Manny fought Margo at 151 but I get it, let's shave another pound off of the scale b/c our Pinoy idol is allowed to play on a kiddie 8 foot rim while the rest play regulation height. I get it now! Pass the ball dude cuz you throwing up bricks with this crackhead argument.

WRONG, it was 150. . . AND, immediately after the fight manny said "never again" will he fight above 147 because the weight was just too much.

Ok, you're right - Manny is ducking Sergio! hahahaha noob. . . and Sergio is the PEOPLE'S CHAMP! calling out chavez and guys 40 pounds lighter tahn him! WHAT A BADASS!

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This is what really p1sses me off about Pacquiao and the Martinez situation.

The situation where.....

* Manny willl fight for Sergio's title
* Manny will fight a guy who beat Sergio
* Manny will not fight Sergio

..... is the very same template for " success " that Team Pacquiao have employed since, at least, the Marquez fight back in 2008.

Pacquiao is feeding on old men, faded champions, and bums.

They have cherry-picked, old, slow, plodding, come-forward guys, and Martinez simply does not qualify..... which is why Pacquiao will not fight him.

It is a joke that Pacquiao fanboys cannot see that, you guys are idiots.

Here, Freddie Roach admits that they manipulated advantages with Hoya/Hatton/Cotto, and picked those guys because they were vulnerable..... although how anyone cannot plainly see that is exactly what they did to Cotto, simply amazes me.

do you realize that cotto weighed 146 against clottey? it's another pound. . . pacquiao WALKS around at 145-150 pounds. . . why is it unfair for him to want to fight on the most even terms possible in regards to weight?

bunch of noobs in here smh. . . going back to other pages to talk boxing now. . .

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pacquiao WIPED out the welterweight division, literally. THANKS and NEXT!

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Lets get it on...54. we k.ow Pacroid won't take the fight

Yeah!!! We also know that Fraud doesn't have the balls to even fight someone who is a natural 154lbs - Fraud would rather bloated up lightweights!!!