Comments Thread For: Martinez's Trainer: Mayweather The Toughest Bout For Us

[LeadUppercut]

Give me the fight night weights of Manny against Mosley, and Floyd against Mosley (i.e. the fight night weights of their last bouts) and then you can determine whether it's fair for one of these guys to meet Sergio at 154.

(Oh yeah, I would also need Sergio's fight night weight against Dzinziruk)

Nope, I am a knowledgable boxing fan, so I dont do fight-night weight.

And I do not accept that rationale by folks who use it to justify why a welter will finally rematch a llightweight.

Boxing uses weight divisions for a reason. The amount of muscle-mass and conditioning that you can take into a fight is strictly determined at the weighin, fight-night weight (or rehydration weight) will make no difference at all, and can even be detrimental.

I wonder how truly great fighters used to fare back under the original divisional system? You know, the system back when there was only one belt so you could not cherry-pick an easy title and then refuse to defend?

The system back when they had same-day weighin's and it was reasonably common-place for a champion to jump a division in search for greatness?

The system where in order to reach for greatness you would have to fight a genuine champion at his best weight, and a small welter fighting a big middleweight would be outweighed by 15-20 lbs?

The system used back when fighters did not have fans who acted like their mommy, trying to protect them from every sc**** and bruise?

Many great fighters made their mark by going up and fighting as the smaller man. A latter-day example would be like Mayweather did against Corrales, Castillo, and to a certain extent even Baldomir and Hoya. Even Martinez did that against Williams and Pavlik.

Mayweather and Pacquiao should not be compelled to take that fight, but Martinez should not be castigated for asking. Pac and May are clearly the biggest payday in boxing, hard luck for them if they dont like getting their feathers ruffled.

[Silencers]

I think Martinez should stop calling out guys who are fighting 2 weight divisions below him and fight guys like Sturm or Abraham.

[GRUSTLER]

I would agree that Sergio Martinez is too big for Floyd and Pac if they didn't move up and win titles at 154. And why are Pac fans saying that Martinez is two divisions higher? He can still make 154. He only fought 4 fights at 160 and one being a catchweight if I'm not mistaken in favor of Paul Williams and Sergio made the weight with no problem. Pac fans, do you realize that Sergio Martinez is 5'10" and Margarito is 5'11"? Pac fans always like to make excuses on why Pac shouldn't fight a guy who can beat him but praise him for fighting bigger punching bags. I would love to see Floyd in the ring with Sergio because Floyd already fought Oscar, who was/is bigger than Sergio as well. The only reason why neither guy would fight Martinez is because it is very possible that they would lose. I think that Martinez should just fight the guys who want to fight him that are good because these so called P4P best guys are too comfortable to take him on. He should keep winning in a dominate fashion against ranked and regarded fighters in his division or higher (if possible) and build his stock up. Sergio Martinez is the only fighter I give a shot at beating Floyd in or around his weight division. Old ass Mosley was out maneuvering Pac with a so called hurt foot. Sergio should KO Pirog and fight whoever else is in the division but Chavez Jr will not fight him because of Arum. Boxing has become the biggest cosigned ducking sport. Even the fans are on it like that.

[BoZz]

I agree. Sergio would wipe his ass with Pacquiao.

And manny knows it. That's why Pac ran away from his own belt.

this is very true................

[UglyPug]

I would agree that Sergio Martinez is too big for Floyd and Pac if they didn't move up and win titles at 154. And why are Pac fans saying that Martinez is two divisions higher? He can still make 154. He only fought 4 fights at 160 and one being a catchweight if I'm not mistaken in favor of Paul Williams and Sergio made the weight with no problem. Pac fans, do you realize that Sergio Martinez is 5'10" and Margarito is 5'11"? Pac fans always like to make excuses on why Pac shouldn't fight a guy who can beat him but praise him for fighting bigger punching bags. I would love to see Floyd in the ring with Sergio because Floyd already fought Oscar, who was/is bigger than Sergio as well. The only reason why neither guy would fight Martinez is because it is very possible that they would lose. I think that Martinez should just fight the guys who want to fight him that are good because these so called P4P best guys are too comfortable to take him on. He should keep winning in a dominate fashion against ranked and regarded fighters in his division or higher (if possible) and build his stock up. Sergio Martinez is the only fighter I give a shot at beating Floyd in or around his weight division. Old ass Mosley was out maneuvering Pac with a so called hurt foot. Sergio should KO Pirog and fight whoever else is in the division but Chavez Jr will not fight him because of Arum. Boxing has become the biggest cosigned ducking sport. Even the fans are on it like that.

sergio is clearly bigger than margarito. all you have to do is look at their frames - anybody can deduce that. AND, like i said, tell sergio to come down to 150 like margarito did. if he's a "JMW" like everybody on here is saying, then why can't he come down 4 extra pounds? 150 is already way too high for pacsmash.

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Cause floyd is a known coward..........................how can he fight floyd is a known ducker

[ADozenArrows]

Mayweather-Martinez is one of the best fights that can be made in boxing.

[b0ndsj0ns20]

Mayweather-Martinez is one of the best fights that can be made in boxing.

I know I am in the minority but I would rather see May-Martinez than May-Pac. I think Martinez has a better chance of beating him than Pac.

[indystress]

You do realize that Mayweather fought and Pacquaio is scheduled to fight them then and current lightweight champion. Are you saying its OK for them to fight a guy two divisions lower, but not fight a guy two divisions higher?

you do realize that your comment is somewhat skewed right?
while pac/marquez will basically be the same weight on fight nite, you cant say the same for a martinez/pac, where martinez would easily outweight pac by 20+ pounds

[indystress]

He keeps on trying dont he? Sergio is one of my favorite fighters but he need to realize that a fight with Floyd aint happening no time soon. Dude might as well just move up to 168 and fight the Super Six winner

wait, not the super6 winner...i'd first like to see martinez against bute, than the loser of the froch/ward...then after that, he can fight the winner of the froch/ward fight...

martinez needs to stop this calling out of welterweights...he no longer is a welterweight...grow some balls and see what you can do in the supermiddleweight martinez...i bet if the competition at super middleweight werent as talent rich as it is, i bet the move up to super middleweight wouldve already happened for martinez...but no, martinez knows he wont own the super middleweight, thats why he aint moving up