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  • #11
    Originally posted by DTanc View Post
    I disagree with the theory that the 1st Castillo fight is the blueprint on how to beat Mayweather. Several people since have tried it and it didn't work. I think fighters on Floyd's level correct mistakes or flaws so we'll only see them once. Mayweather-Castillo I was close and could have gone either way, but in the rematch Floyd beat him convincingly.

    If it were my fighter I would tell him to back away from Floyd and make him come forward. Floyd is a great counterpuncher and counterpunchers hate to lead. If you make Floyd lead you may see him make a mistake. Now whether or not you can capitalize on that mistake is another story.

    One last note on Mayweather-Castillo I: no matter who you thought won Floyd deserves credit for giving him the immediate rematch. If you look at the close fights that have happened recently (Alexander vs Matthyse & Kotelnik) or outright robberies (Williams-Lara) the receiver of the perceived gift decision hasn't shown any interest in setting the story straight. At least Floyd did. I hope Sturm does soon with Macklin like he said he would.
    just because no one has beat him using a gameplan , doesn't mean it's not the right gameplan.

    pressure , pressure , pressure.

    that's what beats boxers.

    it throws them off their timing , it makes them work harder than they're use to.

    just because it hasn't beaten floyd doesn't mean it's not the right game plan.

    floyd is undefeated. no one's game plan has worked on him.


    what are you gonna do? box floyd?

    you're gonna fight floyd in his own fight? when he has all the technical and skills advantage?

    no. you get up on his chest and you make him work.

    you probably will still lose but that doesn't mean your gameplan was wrong.

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    • #12
      I think the fight was very close, I have 7 round to 5 for Mayweather 114-112... but since it was so close I can understand a draw or a Castillo's victory with the same score.

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      • #13
        Then why didn't it work in the rematch? lol let me guess..."Castillo got old", or "He was struggling to make weight even though he remained at 135 afterwards" haha

        I think it takes a guy like Vernon Forrest to beat Floyd. He not only had the physical gifts Margo had, but he also had an amazing jab and could box. I think he could have discouraged Floyd in the ring.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by BoxerDood View Post
          Then why didn't it work in the rematch? lol let me guess..."Castillo got old", or "He was struggling to make weight even though he remained at 135 afterwards" haha

          I think it takes a guy like Vernon Forrest to beat Floyd. He not only had the physical gifts Margo had, but he also had an amazing jab and could box. I think he could have discouraged Floyd in the ring.
          i agree. if ever there was a perfect candidate to beat floyd it would be forrest. not margarito. margs is much too slow and floyd doesnt lose focus or stamina as a fight goes on. in fact her gets much sharper, much more loose. so he wont wear down, he'll most likely pour on the punishment.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
            i think a big , strong guy who is a pressure fighter and can take his punches would give floyd trouble.

            someone who will take 4 to land 1 and just keep the pressure on him for all 12 rounds.

            someone who is much bigger and stronger that can wear him down.

            someone who will just keep on throwing no matter if it lands or not or no matter where it lands , be it the arms , the shoulders , top of the head , etc.

            someone like margarito several years ago.
            Yep, its not surprising floyd stayed as far away from margarito as humanly possible.

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            • #16
              And what is that blueprint rip his shoulder out of socket before the fight starts and fight him one-armed which is what happened in the first Castillo fight. TS gave Castillo every round, now that is a true hater. Must have been watching on you tube or something we know you weren't a boxing fan back then.

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              • #17
                I gave every round in both Pac-JMM fights to Marquez.

                You mad?

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post

                  someone who will take 4 to land 1 ...
                  s.
                  Sounds like the stats for every other fight Mayweather has been in.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
                    just because no one has beat him using a gameplan , doesn't mean it's not the right gameplan.

                    pressure , pressure , pressure.

                    that's what beats boxers.

                    it throws them off their timing , it makes them work harder than they're use to.

                    just because it hasn't beaten floyd doesn't mean it's not the right game plan.

                    floyd is undefeated. no one's game plan has worked on him.


                    what are you gonna do? box floyd?

                    you're gonna fight floyd in his own fight? when he has all the technical and skills advantage?

                    no. you get up on his chest and you make him work.

                    you probably will still lose but that doesn't mean your gameplan was wrong.
                    I'd still like to see someone with handspeed and countering ability make Floyd lead, I think it could prove difficult for him- especially as he gets older.

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                    • #20
                      it's easy to say "this is how you beat him". the hard part is finding someone capable of doing it. castillo could beat him with pressure because he was a great pressure fighter. hatton couldn't because although hatton was a pressure fighter, he's simply not as good as castillo was. there's many ways to beat anybody if your good enough. could aaron pryor beat floyd fighting like castillo did? yes, because he was better at it. vernon forrest or ike quartey i believe could also beat him largely off their jabs. not saying they would. i'm saying they could.

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