Pacquiao more accurate puncher than Mayweather

[D4thincarnation]

If Pac fought the same Cotto that Floyd fought last night we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

Cotto at a legit weight and in an 11 week training camp taking PED test. lol Manny wants none of the above.

Floyd had a chance to fight a prime 147lbs Cotto but chose to retire.

A Cotto with a 10lbs weight adavantage on the scales and a stone or more in the ring gives a Pacquiao a tough fight but Pacquiao still win comfortablly.

Lucky for Floyd, Pacquiao softened up Cotto for him.

Pacquiao accuracy would have been still around 50% maybe higher becuase Cotto was slower and didn't run, like he did against Pac

[Xyei]

Pacquiao really lands 100% of his punches. The ones he misses don't count because he's using them to set up the punches he lands.



This is seriously one of the dumbest threads I've ever seen posted in NSB.

[Dudley]

Seems like you don't understand. Jabs do matter they are very important. But when looking at a fighters accuracy the jab can give a false reading because they are not all meant to land on the opponents head or body.

Why do you think compubox separates the jab from the rest of punches.

That's true to a point... a small point becasue if you have a guy like shane mosley's jab who jangles it out and just tried to bank off power shots to elite boxers it's a joke. We're talking about big boy boxing bro. Every punch you throw is important and serves a function. As soon as you start fractional math of what punches hold more bearing, imo that's none sense, because jabs also throw of an opponents power punches with timing/ breaks rhythm when used effectively. A well placed jab can minimize any power puncher because for him to land that punch is has to be set up.

Take a look back at a fight against a guy who can crack in his prime and a guy who considered by most to have a decent jab. Shane Mosley vs Ronald Winky Wright.

compare high jab connect ratio and losses. Start to look at a statistical analysis of records of fighters who land proficiently with the jab. And I am certain you'll change your tune, I am certain wins would trend to the guys who have better jab connect ratio.

[DeadLikeMe]

Why are you all surprised to find out tatangb45 is an idiot? I figured everyone should have known that from the moment they read his name...

[D4thincarnation]

How can so many people duck a question.

What is the jab used for?

Why do compubox have a seperate category for jabs?

[Dudley]

Floyd had a chance to fight a prime 147lbs Cotto but chose to retire.

A Cotto with a 10lbs weight adavantage on the scales and a stone or more in the ring gives a Pacquiao a tough fight but Pacquiao still win comfortablly.

Lucky for Floyd, Pacquiao softened up Cotto for him.

Pacquiao accuracy would have been still around 50% maybe higher becuase Cotto was slower and didn't run, like he did against Pac

With the Cotto in an 11 week training camp I think not. lol why didn't Manny fight him at a legit weight without a re-hydration clause in Cotto's contract? Hmmm

[D4thincarnation]

That's true to a point... a small point becasue if you have a guy like shane mosley's jab who jangles it out and just tried to bank off power shots to elite boxers it's a joke. We're talking about big boy boxing bro. Every punch you throw is important and serves a function. As soon as you start fractional math of what punches hold more bearing, imo that's none sense, because jabs also throw of an opponents power punches with timing/ breaks rhythm when used effectively. A well placed jab can minimize any power puncher because for him to land that punch is has to be set up.

Take a look back at a fight against a guy who can crack in his prime and a guy who considered by most to have a decent jab. Shane Mosley vs Ronald Winky Wright.

compare high jab connect ratio and losses. Start to look at a statistical analysis of records of fighters who land proficiently with the jab. And I am certain you'll change your tune, I am certain wins would trend to the guys who have better jab connect ratio.

Winky was the bigger man, he just smilled at Shane when he landed a big punch.

I know the reasons why fighters throw jabs but the fact that they are not all meant to land is reason enough to not count them.

The southpaw jab as well can be used like a fencer against orthadox fighters. Just neutralising both jabs, acuracay would be poor but they would be doing exactly what they were meant to be doing, stopping the other guy's jab.

[DeadLikeMe]

How can so many people duck a question.

What is the jab used for?

Why do compubox have a seperate category for jabs?

If you seriously have to ask this, you're ******ed. Look at all the different things a jab can be used for. You have guys like Pacquiao who use a jab without any intention of even scoring with it as they are feinting with it rather than making contact. Guys like Shane who will spam jabs for an entire fight for a multitude of reasons. Then you have guys like Cotto and Mayweather who score with the jab, hell the best punches Cotto had against May were jabs. I'm going to take a wild guess and assume you're in the "Cotto was robbed" group of morons. Yet here you are in this thread still arguing that jabs don't count. Because of that reason they have jabs, powerpunches, and a total because of how versatile and utilized the jab is. It is hardly because, 'jabs don't count."

But you're either a troll or too ****** to understand this, so have fun.

[D4thincarnation]

With the Cotto in an 11 week training camp I think not. lol why didn't Manny fight him at a legit weight without a re-hydration clause in Cotto's contract? Hmmm

There was no hydration clause.

If you have proof of one post it.

And it is irrelavent to the subject at hand.

[Dudley]

How can so many people duck a question.

What is the jab used for?

Jab is used to create/break distance used break rhythm of an opponents timing as well as used to set up power shots.

Why do compubox have a seperate category for jabs?

They separate it to show the variety of punches landed.

NOTE: But if ones jab is inaccurate slow or non committed with can be counter with the right hand over the top or Left right hook to the body or head and or a lead uppercut.

Power shots are customarily known to always be set up by the jab.

In all of boxing I have never seen an elite ATG who doesn't have a proficient and accurate jab.

I think the best way is to look at past fight between fighters that have a good jab and other fighters that are known to the crackers!