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  • Martin (Top Knowledge)
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    #31
    Originally posted by masterdirector
    Whatever, Hatton was the #1 contender and the WBA even named him the mandatory and said Harris had to defend. Hatton turned it down. That's a fact, look it up. Harris couldn't pull out without vacating the title, which he wanted the Hatton fight anyhow.

    WTF are you talking about? You're out of your element. New to boxing eh. Hatton called Judah out after the Judah-Tszyu fight, like in 2002-2003. Then Judah was all over it and Hatton never again mentioned Judah. Check your facts. I talk rubbish? Nope, I'm talking what actually went down.

    When was Judah knocked out? Never really, but if you're talking about that early BS stoppage in 2001, that was before Hatton mentioned Judah. Hatton ducked Judah, that's an undeniable fact. No, there weren't ever any serious Judah vs. Hatton talks, you got that right. Damn right. Because Hatton didn't want any part of Judah. Explain why Hatton called Judah out, then as soon as Judah responded Hatton never mentioned Judah again, even to this date. Its been like 3 years now. Hatton is scared to even say Judah's name. Which hey, he's smart to not mention Judah. Smartest thing he can do is not mention Zab Judah.
    I dunno why I'm bothering to respond because everything you post is so far from the truth it's laughable.

    I have to let you know that because you say it's a fact, doesn't mean that it's actually a fact.

    Hatton was the WBA mandatory, he was also the WBO too... But the Hatton camp pulled him from those positions and fought Michael Stewert for the IBF mandatory position, which resulted in Hatton getting his long awaited shot at Kostya Tszyu.

    The reason that Hatton has never chased after or fought Zab Judah is because Judah got "exposed" knocked out by Kostya Tszyu and no longer carried any negotiating weight. He also moved up to a different weight division completely.

    I just think - !!! When you say that the Zab Judah stoppage was a bull**** stoppage. When a fighter gets up and is in that kind of state that he falls over and can't support his own weight, the referee has no option at all but to stop the fight.

    You're coming across as a Zab Judah fan... Did you want to see your fighter suffer serious illness before you'd be happy??? Knowing what a devistating finisher Kostya Tszyu is, Zab Judah fans should count it lucky that he's "lived to fight another day" so to speak. - He's now the welterweight champion, but if they'd helped him up and forced him to continue fighting, a heavy hitter like Kostya Tszyu would have very likely done unnecessary irreparable damage to Judah and you wouldn't have a welterweight champ now.

    What kind of fan are you?

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      #32
      Easy fight for Hatton...I'm praying for a Cotto-Hatton fight early next year.

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      • masterdirector
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        #33
        Originally posted by Martin (Top Knowledge)
        I dunno why I'm bothering to respond because everything you post is so far from the truth it's laughable.

        I have to let you know that because you say it's a fact, doesn't mean that it's actually a fact.

        Hatton was the WBA mandatory, he was also the WBO too... But the Hatton camp pulled him from those positions and fought Michael Stewert for the IBF mandatory position, which resulted in Hatton getting his long awaited shot at Kostya Tszyu.

        The reason that Hatton has never chased after or fought Zab Judah is because Judah got "exposed" knocked out by Kostya Tszyu and no longer carried any negotiating weight. He also moved up to a different weight division completely.

        I just think - !!! When you say that the Zab Judah stoppage was a bull**** stoppage. When a fighter gets up and is in that kind of state that he falls over and can't support his own weight, the referee has no option at all but to stop the fight.

        You're coming across as a Zab Judah fan... Did you want to see your fighter suffer serious illness before you'd be happy??? Knowing what a devistating finisher Kostya Tszyu is, Zab Judah fans should count it lucky that he's "lived to fight another day" so to speak. - He's now the welterweight champion, but if they'd helped him up and forced him to continue fighting, a heavy hitter like Kostya Tszyu would have very likely done unnecessary irreparable damage to Judah and you wouldn't have a welterweight champ now.

        What kind of fan are you?
        Man, you're so far wrong its funny. Seriously, you just got into boxing huh. Seems like you can't comprehend the simple, let alone the complex.

        Judah won the WBO 140 lb title from Corley, remember? Hatton had jack ****. That WBU title?. Hatton wouldn't fight Judah because he was a scared little twit. Judah called him out right after Hatton had called Judah out. After time had passed from the Tszyu fight, understand? It wasn't right after. See, most fighters have something called pride, unlike Hatton. They actually accept challenges. Judah answered Hatton and then kept on calling Hatton out. Hatton has yet to EVER (get that through your Frank Warren-like skull) mention Judah again. Why? He didn't want the WBO title when he had nothing?

        He didn't want to fight Harris for the WBA title, thus giving him more bargaining power for a Tszyu fight? He passes that over for a Michael Stewart fight? Yeah, I wonder why. He thought he had a better chance of beating the washed up Stewart. See, if had had fought Harris, he could've picked up the WBA title AND been ranked #1 by the IBF in the same night. Harris was an IBF ranked fighter. You know the IBF would've been willing to rank the winner #1 contender.

        Hatton took the easier fight of No Joke Stewart instead of the harder fight for a title with Harris. He gave up a title shot to fight in a non-title fight against a guy that Mitchell had just walked right through.

        Oh and really it was Mitchell vs. Tszyu winner that Hatton would've fought technically, but I know you meant that of course.

        Anyhow, point is way before he even fought No Joke Stewart or any other Mitchell leftovers, Judah offered him a WBO title shot publicly. No response. I remember Hatton was definitely mentioned after the Rangel fight.

        Anyhow, I hope Hatton gets the Maussa fight and I hope he knocks the hell out of Maussa in a round and fools himself into thinking he's hot stuff. Then hopefully he'll fight Mayweather, blame the weight when he gets knocked out, move up and fight Judah, blame his inexperience when he gets knocked out, fight Mosley (if Mosley is still around), blame the weight, move up and fight Vargas, get knocked out, blame his team, hire Buddy McGirt, fight Ouma, get knocked out, retire. That'd be my ideal Ricky Hatton career plan. I hope it all works out for him that way.

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          #34
          Originally posted by masterdirector
          Man, you're so far wrong its funny. Seriously, you just got into boxing huh. Seems like you can't comprehend the simple, let alone the complex.

          Judah won the WBO 140 lb title from Corley, remember? Hatton had jack ****. That WBU title?. Hatton wouldn't fight Judah because he was a scared little twit. Judah called him out right after Hatton had called Judah out. After time had passed from the Tszyu fight, understand? It wasn't right after. See, most fighters have something called pride, unlike Hatton. They actually accept challenges. Judah answered Hatton and then kept on calling Hatton out. Hatton has yet to EVER (get that through your Frank Warren-like skull) mention Judah again. Why? He didn't want the WBO title when he had nothing?

          He didn't want to fight Harris for the WBA title, thus giving him more bargaining power for a Tszyu fight? He passes that over for a Michael Stewart fight? Yeah, I wonder why. He thought he had a better chance of beating the washed up Stewart. See, if had had fought Harris, he could've picked up the WBA title AND been ranked #1 by the IBF in the same night. Harris was an IBF ranked fighter. You know the IBF would've been willing to rank the winner #1 contender.

          Hatton took the easier fight of No Joke Stewart instead of the harder fight for a title with Harris. He gave up a title shot to fight in a non-title fight against a guy that Mitchell had just walked right through.

          Oh and really it was Mitchell vs. Tszyu winner that Hatton would've fought technically, but I know you meant that of course.

          Anyhow, point is way before he even fought No Joke Stewart or any other Mitchell leftovers, Judah offered him a WBO title shot publicly. No response. I remember Hatton was definitely mentioned after the Rangel fight.

          Anyhow, I hope Hatton gets the Maussa fight and I hope he knocks the hell out of Maussa in a round and fools himself into thinking he's hot stuff. Then hopefully he'll fight Mayweather, blame the weight when he gets knocked out, move up and fight Judah, blame his inexperience when he gets knocked out, fight Mosley (if Mosley is still around), blame the weight, move up and fight Vargas, get knocked out, blame his team, hire Buddy McGirt, fight Ouma, get knocked out, retire. That'd be my ideal Ricky Hatton career plan. I hope it all works out for him that way.
          OWNED, ROFL Nice one man!

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            #35
            This should make for an entertaning fight.

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            • Cletus Funk
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              #36
              Harris turned down the Hatton fight. It was never a mandatory defence even though Hatton was ranked #1. Cotto was his mandatory for 2 years and the fight never happened. Mayweather was his mandatory from late 2004 but he never fought him. He had fights lined up with Tszyu and Mitchell and they never happened. Even his own promoters are quoted as saying that Harris messed up several fights due to his excessive demands, yet you try to make out that Hatton pussied out of the fight because he was scared? Get real, you don't go after Tszyu because you're scared of Harris, or Judah for that matter. Hatton's always said he wanted Tszyu, from day one. The rest of them were just paper champs.

              Hatton has never once turned down Judah. Infact, Warren's trying to negotiate a Judah fight at the minute in an attempt to keep Hatton with him. Judah calls out people for fun and you'd have to be a fool to believe his take on most things. Witter was Judah's WBO mandatory but Judah decided to go to 147 intstead of fight him. Witter called out Judah all the time with no response. Maybe he was scared of what Witter would do to him with more than 9 days notice?

              I guess you just got into boxing though, huh? Maybe you should stick to the gay-bashing.

              Originally posted by masterdirector
              Man, you're so far wrong its funny. Seriously, you just got into boxing huh. Seems like you can't comprehend the simple, let alone the complex.

              Judah won the WBO 140 lb title from Corley, remember? Hatton had jack ****. That WBU title?. Hatton wouldn't fight Judah because he was a scared little twit. Judah called him out right after Hatton had called Judah out. After time had passed from the Tszyu fight, understand? It wasn't right after. See, most fighters have something called pride, unlike Hatton. They actually accept challenges. Judah answered Hatton and then kept on calling Hatton out. Hatton has yet to EVER (get that through your Frank Warren-like skull) mention Judah again. Why? He didn't want the WBO title when he had nothing?

              He didn't want to fight Harris for the WBA title, thus giving him more bargaining power for a Tszyu fight? He passes that over for a Michael Stewart fight? Yeah, I wonder why. He thought he had a better chance of beating the washed up Stewart. See, if had had fought Harris, he could've picked up the WBA title AND been ranked #1 by the IBF in the same night. Harris was an IBF ranked fighter. You know the IBF would've been willing to rank the winner #1 contender.

              Hatton took the easier fight of No Joke Stewart instead of the harder fight for a title with Harris. He gave up a title shot to fight in a non-title fight against a guy that Mitchell had just walked right through.

              Oh and really it was Mitchell vs. Tszyu winner that Hatton would've fought technically, but I know you meant that of course.

              Anyhow, point is way before he even fought No Joke Stewart or any other Mitchell leftovers, Judah offered him a WBO title shot publicly. No response. I remember Hatton was definitely mentioned after the Rangel fight.

              Anyhow, I hope Hatton gets the Maussa fight and I hope he knocks the hell out of Maussa in a round and fools himself into thinking he's hot stuff. Then hopefully he'll fight Mayweather, blame the weight when he gets knocked out, move up and fight Judah, blame his inexperience when he gets knocked out, fight Mosley (if Mosley is still around), blame the weight, move up and fight Vargas, get knocked out, blame his team, hire Buddy McGirt, fight Ouma, get knocked out, retire. That'd be my ideal Ricky Hatton career plan. I hope it all works out for him that way.
              Last edited by Cletus Funk; 10-11-2005, 04:15 AM.

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              • J !
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                #37
                Originally posted by masterdirector
                Whatever, Hatton was the #1 contender and the WBA even named him the mandatory and said Harris had to defend. Hatton turned it down. That's a fact, look it up. Harris couldn't pull out without vacating the title, which he wanted the Hatton fight anyhow.

                WTF are you talking about? You're out of your element. New to boxing eh. Hatton called Judah out after the Judah-Tszyu fight, like in 2002-2003. Then Judah was all over it and Hatton never again mentioned Judah. Check your facts. I talk rubbish? Nope, I'm talking what actually went down.

                When was Judah knocked out? Never really, but if you're talking about that early BS stoppage in 2001, that was before Hatton mentioned Judah. Hatton ducked Judah, that's an undeniable fact. No, there weren't ever any serious Judah vs. Hatton talks, you got that right. Damn right. Because Hatton didn't want any part of Judah. Explain why Hatton called Judah out, then as soon as Judah responded Hatton never mentioned Judah again, even to this date. Its been like 3 years now. Hatton is scared to even say Judah's name. Which hey, he's smart to not mention Judah. Smartest thing he can do is not mention Zab Judah.

                sorry mate you are talking out of your arse.

                The fight was to be signed for 750 k for Harris, Harris then signed Manny steward as his trainer, who pulled the fight at the time statign money issues, and harris was told to big up the fact that he as champion should get more money.

                Steward later admitted that he didnt want to send harris o the lions den cos he didnt think he had a hope. So he singed the Urkal fight for 250 k.

                secondly when you are quoting that Zab judah called him out Hatton was only just taking ont he likes of Aldo rios and tackie, what a big man Zab must be as an ex title holder to take on a novice .............of course hatotn didnt take the fight this time.

                Havent noticed Zab being so mouthy since Hatton stopped his conqueror in Zoo.

                so please if you are going to be officious make sure you have the correct facts dude cos you post is based on nothign but your biased opinion and not fact..
                Last edited by J !; 10-11-2005, 05:50 AM.

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                • Martin (Top Knowledge)
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Frank the Tank
                  Originally posted by J !
                  Cheers guys for explaining the situation to him... I think it's falling on dead ears though. Some people on this website just have tunnel vision and are not interested in the truth. (I call them WWE-Boxing fans... ).

                  Hence the reason I just couldn't be bothered to reply to him.

                  What's the point?

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                  • J !
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                    #39
                    ill get the official transcript if he wants em.

                    and no worries bro, we know you talk sense.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by J !
                      sorry mate you are talking out of your arse.

                      The fight was to be signed for 750 k for Harris, Harris then signed Manny steward as his trainer, who pulled the fight at the time statign money issues, and harris was told to big up the fact that he as champion should get more money.

                      Steward later admitted that he didnt want to send harris o the lions den cos he didnt think he had a hope. So he singed the Urkal fight for 250 k.

                      secondly when you are quoting that Zab judah called him out Hatton was only just taking ont he likes of Aldo rios and tackie, what a big man Zab must be as an ex title holder to take on a novice .............of course hatotn didnt take the fight this time.

                      Havent noticed Zab being so mouthy since Hatton stopped his conqueror in Zoo.

                      so please if you are going to be officious make sure you have the correct facts dude cos you post is based on nothign but your biased opinion and not fact..
                      Carefull - he'll start calling you a ***.

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