Do you believe Gatti was murdered?

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  • shawowski
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    #31
    Ive seen enough CSI to know this was a murder, I bet that ***** was connected to some big boy cartel, got the insurance gwop aswell........................... *****!! RIP Gatti

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    • boxer.exposed
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      #32
      I think he was murdered with that kind of money involved.

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      • UglyPug
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        #33
        Originally posted by gratz_the_king
        it was a ****ty 3rd world country where the police and security are corrupt as hell, and considering gatti had millions of US dollars (that his wife was going to receive when he died), how hard is it to believe that she broke them off a piece?

        i guess valero hung himself too...
        Brazil isn't a third world country? LOL don't believe everything you see in City of God, although it was a ****ing awesome movie. . . It has some bad areas but the hotel where they were staying was chock full'o security cameras and guards. There is no reason to believe that there was any "inside job" or "cover up".

        THE ONLY thing that looks kinda fishy is the insurance policy, but that happens all the time. . .

        I agree with Paulf - the signs were all there. alcoholic, ******* abuse. . . Personally, I think he couldn't stand the man he had become (beating his wife up), and coupled with the alcohol and ******* (did they find it in his system?) just made him snap.

        Like I said, the toughest battles we have to fight in life are with ourselves.

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          #34
          I think he also may have been suffering from brain damage too. I mean it wad pretty much impossible to watch his fights with Robinson, Ruelas, Ward, DLH, Rodriguez, Mayweather, Gomez, etc...and not wonder if those blows were going to catch up with him.

          Pugilistic dementia and other brain trauma been associated with depression, control issues, suicide, etc...On top of that, he had his substance abuse issues as well.

          Originally posted by uglypug
          Brazil isn't a third world country? LOL don't believe everything you see in City of God, although it was a ****ing awesome movie. . . It has some bad areas but the hotel where they were staying was chock full'o security cameras and guards. There is no reason to believe that there was any "inside job" or "cover up".

          THE ONLY thing that looks kinda fishy is the insurance policy, but that happens all the time. . .

          I agree with Paulf - the signs were all there. alcoholic, ******* abuse. . . Personally, I think he couldn't stand the man he had become (beating his wife up), and coupled with the alcohol and ******* (did they find it in his system?) just made him snap.

          Like I said, the toughest battles we have to fight in life are with ourselves.

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          • Haglerwins
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            #35
            The purse strap couldn't support his weight. A mock test of hanging with that much weight using one snapped.

            He was asphyxiated when he was unable to defend himself, and then it was made to look like suicide. Motive => Money.

            Keycard to get in their Hotel is not a deterrent. Easy to get around if she helped someone.

            Not hard.

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            • BTL
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              #36
              He was murdered

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              • paulf
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                #37
                Originally posted by Lorily
                The reason why that is su****ious to me is because they showed pictures of the kitchen where they were staying in the hotel. The area where his body was laying and where the stairs were located, she would have litterally had to have stepped OVER him to get around the kitchen table. The photos that showed Arturo laying there showed the VERY large puddle of blood around his head. THERE IS NO WAY SHE SAW HIM, STEPPED OVER HIM and went back upstairs - without seeing all that blood. It's just impossible. And there would have had to be enough light on for her to see he was there and to know where to step over him, so she couldn't have NOT seen the blood.
                They showed photos of his body taken during the daytime with the lights on. When she came downstairs it was night time/early morning (dark). Do you turn on every light when you run downstairs for a drink?

                Originally posted by Haglerwins
                The purse strap couldn't support his weight. A mock test of hanging with that much weight using one snapped.
                The test was part of the initial investigation, but it was deemed irrelevant when it was discovered that the test was done with the actual purse strap, which had already snapped.

                Originally posted by gratz_the_king
                it was a ****ty 3rd world country where the police and security are corrupt as hell, and considering gatti had millions of US dollars (that his wife was going to receive when he died), how hard is it to believe that she broke them off a piece?

                i guess valero hung himself too...
                Hundreds of thousands of tourists much much richer than Arturo Gatti go to Brasil every year, but they don't get stoned by crowds and hung up by purse straps in Hotel rooms. So what did Gatti's wife do, call the local police commissioner of this city and ask the police force to help her kill a world famous boxer by hanging him up with a purse strap? And if they do, she'll give him some of the money in his will that she won't get for another year or so?

                Very likely.

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                • Chew BackAtacha
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                  #38
                  some good responses, a 50-50 agrument which was unexpected

                  I think of the Gatti case and i think of Chris Beniot, the WWF wrestler. All those hits to the head haywired his brain. I think perhaps Gatti experienced something similar

                  i know one thing though

                  he didnt kill himself. Gatti was a fighter, and like that boxer said on Ellie sechbacks video, why would he give up on the biggest fight of all

                  so who knows

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                  • bojangles1987
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Chew BackAtacha
                    some good responses, a 50-50 agrument which was unexpected

                    I think of the Gatti case and i think of Chris Beniot, the WWF wrestler. All those hits to the head haywired his brain. I think perhaps Gatti experienced something similar

                    i know one thing though

                    he didnt kill himself. Gatti was a fighter, and like that boxer said on Ellie sechbacks video, why would he give up on the biggest fight of all

                    so who knows
                    I can't claim to know Gatti, but life is far harder than stepping in a ring and boxing, especially for a boxer who knows nothing else but can't do it anymore.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Chew BackAtacha
                      some good responses, a 50-50 agrument which was unexpected

                      I think of the Gatti case and i think of Chris Beniot, the WWF wrestler. All those hits to the head haywired his brain. I think perhaps Gatti experienced something similar

                      i know one thing though

                      he didnt kill himself. Gatti was a fighter, and like that boxer said on Ellie sechbacks video, why would he give up on the biggest fight of all

                      so who knows
                      Who knows what was going on in his personal life and in his head?

                      Other boxers and athletes have killed themselves, or attempted suicide.
                      Life is different than athletic competition.

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