Lol, Martinez is scared to death to fight a live fighter, but it's up to Pacquiao to fight the guy just to prove what exactly? I know Sergio would be a tough fight for Manny and all that. But why not Martinez fight these dudes like Golovkin and Quillin to prove that he is heads above the rest.
Pacquiao don't have to fight guys like Berto, Paul Williams, or even Victor Ortiz to prove a point. I'm not saying I don't want to see Pacquiao in a tough fight. But lol at these people who think those three guys would be any kind of challenge for him. Just like Ortiz won't be any kind of challenge for Floyd Mayweather.
Basically what I'm saying is it is a more forgone conclusion that Pacquiao would beat guys like Victor Ortiz and Andre Berto than it is Martinez beating guys like Golovkin, Pirog, or Quillin. Does that mean Pacquiao should fight bums? No. Of course not. But Pacquiao has more of an excuse to pick and choose his fights because he is fighting way above his natural weight and Martinez won't even fight any good fighters in his own natural weight class. I give him some credit for the Pavlik win. But even that has fizzled out and he didn't even beat him as impressively as Hopkins did.
Come on bro. You can't compare Hopkins win over Pavlik to Sergio's win over Pavlik. Martinez went up in weight to fight Pavlik but Pavlik went up in weight to fight Hopkins. I agree that Hopkins looked better against Pavlik but he was fighting the smaller guy. You can't compare the two.
...After Williams... Dzinziruk was the recognized threat at 154-160... So YEAH... Fighting ALL comers...
Sergio didn't make a bunch from fighting him either...None the less... When Pirog gets KO'd by Martinez... I'll be here telling you to sit on a fatty. The kid beats Jacobs and he BECOMES somebody??? **** outta here....
WHO WAS JACOBS?!?!?!
NOBODY!!!
Sergio beat Pavlik who beat Lineal Taylor; who beat Lineal Bernard; who is arguably the greatest MW of all time!!!!
I'm not interested in hype jobs getting exposed. I'm interested in the best possible fights taking place.
I don't want to see elite P4P fighters fighting "bums" "hypejobs". I want to see elite P4P fighters fighting the best in their weight-class.
That's the difference between you and I.
No your not, cut the BS. Manny vs Sergio for the title they both held is a superfight, Manny taking the test and proving to the world he is clean then taking on Floyd is a superfight, Manny vs Ortiz or Berto before he lost would be great fights for boxing but this is not what you wanna see. Sergio vs Chavez is a great hype fight for boxing. When you win a world title you should be ready to take on anyone that threatens it. Sergio should not have to go up to 168 when he can easily make 154-157. Both Floyd and Manny need to fight Martinez @ 154 if they really wanna be considered P4P #1. There is no excuse. If Manny can fight for Sergio's title he can fight Sergio.
...After Williams... Dzinziruk was the recognized threat at 154-160... So YEAH... Fighting ALL comers...
Sergio didn't make a bunch from fighting him either...None the less... When Pirog gets KO'd by Martinez... I'll be here telling you to sit on a fatty. The kid beats Jacobs and he BECOMES somebody??? **** outta here....
WHO WAS JACOBS?!?!?!
NOBODY!!!
Sergio beat Pavlik who beat Lineal Taylor; who beat Lineal Bernard; who is arguably the greatest MW of all time!!!!
rookie
Dzinziruk was arguably the best JMW. That has nothing to do with MW. And, to say that Dzinziruk was his mandatory is wrong. He wasn't so.
No Martinez doesn't fight all comers if he did he would be unifying the titles.
Who has JCC Jr beat?
Better yet who has Darren Barker beat?
@ calling B-Hop arguably the greatest MW of all time...Oh my god...
Hey rookie, you know boxing existed before 1990 right?
No your not, cut the BS. Manny vs Sergio for the title they both held is a superfight, Manny taking the test and proving to the world he is clean then taking on Floyd is a superfight, Manny vs Ortiz or Berto before he lost would be great fights for boxing but this is not what you wanna see. Sergio vs Chavez is a great hype fight for boxing. When you win a world title you should be ready to take on anyone that threatens it. Sergio should not have to go up to 168 when he can easily make 154-157. Both Floyd and Manny need to fight Martinez @ 154 if they really wanna be considered P4P #1. There is no excuse. If Manny can fight for Sergio's title he can fight Sergio.
You making no sense bring Manny in. Yes Manny will never fight Martinez. Is a mismatch. Martinez would utterly destroy Pac...Your point is what exactly?
Since we got that out of the way. Pirog won a world title as well...Why not be eager to fight him exactly?
Dzinziruk was arguably the best JMW. That has nothing to do with MW. And, to say that Dzinziruk was his mandatory is wrong. He wasn't so.
No Martinez doesn't fight all comers if he did he would be unifying the titles.
Who has JCC Jr beat?
Better yet who has Darren Barker beat?
none of them have beat anyone. pirog hasnt beat anyone either. neither has quillen and neither has golovkin. mebbe if they fought each other and got some great wins theyd have a good argument. ppl cant deny they seem to have skills but at the end of the day, they havent made their names mean anything. the barker fight is indefensible tho. i agree. i see nothing wrong with the chavez jr fight over either of those 3 guys tho. sturm is supposedly the 2nd best fighter in the division but that obviously proves to be false also.
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