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  • JM1
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    #161
    Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
    Sampson Lewkowicz, adviser to WBC middleweight Diamond champion Sergio Martinez, fired off a few verbal bombs at top boxing trainer Freddie Roach. Lewkowicz was offended by some of Roach's comments in a recently published interview, where the trainer questioned the worth and the boxing ability of Martinez. Roach wants to match his undefeated middleweight Peter Quillin against Martinez, but that fight won't happen in the near future, says Lewkowicz.

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    team martinez should stop chasin welters like pac and floyd. he should be fighting pirog but he chose to take an easy fight instead

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    • JM1
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      #162
      Originally posted by Rickv
      Everyone wants to defend PAC but yet he fought Margarito for a belt at 154 who is taller than Martinez but Martinez is to big BS Manny would get his ass ****d and Roach knows It they put Manny in there with Shot bums to make him look good the day he does fight Floyd everyone will see how easy it will be for Floyd!
      taller doesnt mean bigger son

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      • Nyboxfan1
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        #163
        Sergio's team already said they would take the tests if a Mayweather fight ever occurred, with no cut off date.

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        • boxingfan76
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          #164
          Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
          Sampson Lewkowicz, adviser to WBC middleweight Diamond champion Sergio Martinez, fired off a few verbal bombs at top boxing trainer Freddie Roach. Lewkowicz was offended by some of Roach's comments in a recently published interview, where the trainer questioned the worth and the boxing ability of Martinez. Roach wants to match his undefeated middleweight Peter Quillin against Martinez, but that fight won't happen in the near future, says Lewkowicz.

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          its funny how theres absolutley no mention of this in the philipino media they will not print anything remotley unflattering about their god. martinez destroys pacroids period! pac will stick to facing bums no-hopers and mummies........

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          • mathed
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            #165
            Originally posted by JM..
            team martinez should stop chasin welters like pac and floyd. he should be fighting pirog but he chose to take an easy fight instead
            23-0, 14ko's>>>>>18-0, 14 ko's

            He'd mop the floor with Pirog who looked like crap in his last fight.

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            • Gino Ros
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              #166
              Originally posted by dc3383
              Freddie wouldn't dare put Manny in front of Sergio.
              No matter what weight Sergio agrees to, Mimi Pacquiao will ask for lower. Mimi will try to drain Sergio down to jerky.

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              • The_Sandman
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                #167
                screw the Pacquiao vs Martinez fight. Mayweather vs Martinez fight is the better match up at 154. Freddie Roach knows whats up.

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                • Lorily
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                  #168
                  [quote=Brother Jay;10852728]However there was a rehydration clause. This is how Pacquiao is able to drain his opponents and still be able to deny having used a catchweight when questioned about it.

                  Its an old trick.

                  Most fans aren't educated enough to know what a rehydration clause is. Most just learned about catchweights because Pacquiao has been using them in recent years.

                  What happened in the case of DLH and Margarito was that they were asked to make weight, which is of course a standard practice. However on the night when most fighters are able to rehydrate and come in at a heavier, more comfortable weight, DLH and Margarito were stipulated not to.

                  Any student of the game would tell you that there was no advantage to what DLH or Margarito did. It didn't enhance speed, strength or stamina. In fact, it sapped all 3 of those attributes.

                  Arum and Roach know all the old tricks. Bob Arum is a Ring Master aware of a dozen ways to tilt a fight in his favor. Its naive to believe that a promoter wouldn't bet on a fight that he has intimate knowledge about, which is why it was always seen as a conflict of interests when Top Rank or Don King had two of their own fighters in the same match.

                  Arum knows this, but he counts on the ignorance of the fans and especially the gamblers. Pacquiao/Cotto, Pacquiao Clottey & Pacquiao/Margarito never should have happened. Arum knew if those guys had injuries. Arum knew if those guys had tendencies. Arum knew if one of those guys were having a life crisis. In other words, only Arum and other Top Rank affiliates would have intimate knowledge of both camps, and could therefore hedge their bets.

                  A rehydration stipulation is just one such tool.

                  Fans of Pacquiao are so blind that they actually believe the best about Bob Arum who has been found guilty of bribery in boxing on more than one occasion. And those are just the times that he's gotten caught.

                  Don't be so naive.

                  If you look at nearly every Top Rank boxer's accomplishments, you'll see the hand of Bob Arum in it. They say that only two men answer the bell, but you better believe that there's a third man's hand felt in that ring when its time to hear the score cards. A knockout is the best chance you've got to win against a Top Rank fighter or any sleazy promoter. Look at Paul Williams recent decision. If you think that wasn't motivated by a payoff then you are more naive than I originally thought.[/quote]

                  There was a re-hydration clause in the DLH and Margarito fights?? Do you have a link to that fact? Because that's quite hard to believe considering that Margarito gained 17 POUNDS after the weigh in and by the time of the fight against Pacquiao. And it was OSCAR that said HE made a big mistake by coming in too light (he blamed HIMSELF), there was never any mention as to a re-hydration clause. Again, do you have a link to support your statement?

                  Another case in point - you going off on Martinez now being a steroid user and not taking or agreeing to the tests. However, Sergio has stated countless times that he would take the tests if he were to fight Floyd Mayweather, so I really don't know where you get that idea from. The articles are here on B.S. if you care to do a little bit of research.

                  And lastly, I think most people are well aware of Bob Arum and his horribly manipulative ways. However, the Williams-Lara fight had nothing to do with Bob. Paul Williams promoter is Dan Goosen, so if it was a pay off in favor of Williams then obviously Arum had nothing to do with it.

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                  • Seleção No. 13
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                    #169
                    Originally posted by DoktorSleepless


                    After being asked to fight Bute or Hopkins, Martinez responded.
                    So Sergio wants a catchweight of 164lbs. I really don't think he should criticize Manny for asking 150lbs since he can't even get past 149lbs on fight night.

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                      #170
                      Originally posted by dc3383
                      Freddie wouldn't dare put Manny in front of Sergio.
                      Yes he would.

                      Lap-dancing, or serving drinks.

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