Comments Thread For: Photos/Weights: Juan Manuel Marquez vs Likar Ramos

[DominiBox]

Yes the softness he shows at 138 looks like he will fill out 6 lbs heaver just great for a nice slow JMM just like Roach ordered .

Juan Manuel Marquez Vs Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Weigh in

144lb-------------------------146lb

Day of the Fight

148lb-------------------------160lb

Can you repeat that ??

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He lost one fight aginst the first real threat of his pro-career !!
I guy he tooked to 147 and still could not defeat. So stop trying to defend thid bumb.... I promise you'll look ridiculous doing that.

Wasnt Roach just quoted as saying Ortiz was killing himself making 140 when above 140 Freddie said he gave Pac hell in some of the best gym wars your gunna see , people are very quick to sink the boot into fighters on NSB I dont think Berto is as bad as his knockers try to portray , maybe Ortiz was just that good on the night .

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Juan Manuel Marquez Vs Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Weigh in

144lb-------------------------146lb

Day of the Fight

148lb-------------------------160lb

Can you repeat that ??

Yes exactly it was an uncompetitive fight with Floyd , lucky they didnt have a history defining trilogy fight at a weight that was fair for both , then Floyd would have looked like a scumbag trying to stiff history instead of just putting on an exhibition boxing match to blow the cobb webs off after 2 yrs out of the ring ,,,, you dont see the difference ?

[DominiBox]

Wasnt Roach just quoted as saying Ortiz was killing himself making 140 when above 140 Freddie said he gave Pac hell in some of the best gym wars your gunna see , people are very quick to sink the boot into fighters on NSB I dont think Berto is as bad as his knockers try to portray , maybe Ortiz was just that good on the night .

Look dude... I loooooove Victor Ortiz...And i'm not taking nothing away from him...But... he doesn't even have a decent jab.... either a dominant right hook.

He still a threat to any top fighter in the sport, but was Berto's first real threat....and Berto failed, even tooking him to 147.

Post-fight conference: "I wasn't myself tonight"
Twitter: "Victor must be on roids"

WTF ??

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Yes the softness he shows at 138 looks like he will fill out 6 lbs heaver just great for a nice slow JMM just like Roach ordered .

Hey man, I don't agree with the fight at this weight but it is what it is. Marquez has a bit of time to work on his weight and try to figure out what's the best possible weight for him to be competitive against pac. For the record I don't think he looked too bad at 138 but we will see how he performs and then judge. No matter what I'm behind Marquez all the way.

[DominiBox]

Yes exactly it was an uncompetitive fight with Floyd , lucky they didnt have a history defining trilogy fight at a weight that was fair for both , then Floyd would have looked like a scumbag trying to stiff history instead of just putting on an exhibition boxing match to blow the cobb webs off after 2 yrs out of the ring ,,,, you dont see the difference ?

Yeah...
For me the difference here is that, as happened with Floyd....Pacquiao is the top fighter and why not? THE CASH COW....

So..should Pacquiao go down to 135 or should Marquez go up to 144?
They even established an agreed weight for the fight. And believe me, Pacquiao will not outweight Marquez the way Floyd did.

Marquez went up to 148 the day of the fight against Mayweather. BIG MISTAKE.

He'll not do that again.

He weighted 145 against katsidis and made a great great fight. NO EXCUSE!!
But WTF !! Anyways there will be excuses against Pacquiao.

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Look dude... I loooooove Victor Ortiz...And i'm not taking nothing away from him...But... he doesn't even have a decent jab.... either a dominant right hook.

He still a threat to any top fighter in the sport, but was Berto's first real threat....and Berto failed, even tooking him to 147.

Post-fight conference: "I wasn't myself tonight"
Twitter: "Victor must be on roids"

WTF ??

Hey buddy , lots of guys dont have any one thing thats great but what they have and bring on their night can nullify all of that and pull out big wins , the difference in fighters at the top end of the sport is in fractions not miles being in the zone on the night is a huge leveler , Im not blowing Berto sunshine , Im just saying people on NSB are very quick to cull the loser only because he lost .

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Yeah...
For me the difference here is that, as happened with Floyd....Pacquiao is the top fighter and why not? THE CASH COW....

So..should Pacquiao go down to 135 or should Marquez go up to 144?
They even established an agreed weight for the fight. And believe me, Pacquiao will not outweight Marquez the way Floyd did.

Marquez went up to 148 the day of the fight against Mayweather. BIG MISTAKE.

He'll not do that again.

He weighted 145 against katsidis and made a great great fight. NO EXCUSE!!
But WTF !! Anyways there will be excuses against Pacquiao.

My beef with Pac in this one is they are always saying he can make 140 easy , they could have gone at 140 and it would be a fair deal , 135 would be unreasonable to Manny ,, 144 is unreasonable to JMM who tried to get them down to 142 and they wouldnt be in it , I guess Im dirty on Roach for stiffing JMM , he knows its going to slow JMM down and that will change everything , I dont like them bragging they will KO Juan knowing they have him over a barrel .

This is Pac now not Katsidis lots of difference , JMM needs his absolute A game to compete with Pac , at 144 he cant bring that .

[DominiBox]

Hey buddy , lots of guys dont have any one thing thats great but what they have and bring on their night can nullify all of that and pull out big wins , the difference in fighters at the top end of the sport is in fractions not miles being in the zone on the night is a huge leveler , Im not blowing Berto sunshine , Im just saying people on NSB are very quick to cull the loser only because he lost .

Totally Agree....
But you know that nowadays is a habit to create perfect records that make us think something they are not. And IMO, Berto is one of those.

[DominiBox]

My beef with Pac in this one is they are always saying he can make 140 easy , they could have gone at 140 and it would be a fair deal , 135 would be unreasonable to Manny ,, 144 is unreasonable to JMM who tried to get them down to 142 and they wouldnt be in it , I guess Im dirty on Roach for stiffing JMM , he knows its going to slow JMM down and that will change everything , I dont like them bragging they will KO Juan knowing they have him over a barrel .

This is Pac now not Katsidis lots of difference , JMM needs his absolute A game to compete with Pac , at 144 he cant bring that .

Look... this are Marquez words:

http://www.boxingscene.com/marquez-s...-pounds--31529

Last time Manny weighted less than 143 pounds was against De la Hoya. He weighted 142 that night. So I don't think it would be that easy for Manny to make 140.

And remember... He can stay around 143 or 144 if he wants. Manny will not outweight Marquez for the big reason that he needs speed and foot work.