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  • Palimpsest
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    #41
    Originally posted by ChopperRead
    I like Pavlik, but if he's an alcoholic and is getting in drunken brawls where he smashes out a window with his fist and pulls his brother through it, it doesn't sound all that encouraging for him. It doesn't sound as if he has things under control.
    You wouldn't get the Klitschko brothers behaving like that would you Chopper?

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    • Palimpsest
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      #42
      Originally posted by deuce_drop
      means thats what they said......... per the sargent or per your boss..... means they're telling things from their information and stand point.......
      I see thanks ...

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      • VERILY
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        #43
        Originally posted by junior gong
        I think so. I think that Hopkins beat whatever self belief Kelly had out of him, and its sad but fighters have lives just like us all and they are seldom perfect.
        He's gone backward hugely as a fighter, there are so many things he used to do in the ring that we haven't seen in an age - and, like you say, the guy's mind and spirit seem to have been broken, so the body will surely follow in that trait of decline.

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        • AKATheMack
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          #44
          Drunk Kelly Pavlik is still a tougher test than anyone Bute has fought. Bute probably gets with him though if Kelly cant keep straight.

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          • delpilar
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            #45
            With all the ******ities that Kelley is showing to the public, he's really proving that Bernard didn't just beat him in the ring....he got dogged there too.

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            • junior gong
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              #46
              Originally posted by Adam Konitz
              He's gone backward hugely as a fighter, there are so many things he used to do in the ring that we haven't seen in an age - and, like you say, the guy seems mentally broken.
              I guess none of know all the factors at play in his life, but like you said he just isnt fighting like he used to. He looked like a husk in his last fight and when you have gone so far back I reckon he wont get close to being the fighter he was. I just hope the guy has looked after his money and secured some sort of future beyond boxing.

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              • ChopperRead
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                #47
                Originally posted by deuce_drop
                fair enough on that one, why wasn't in this article though?
                The stuff like this on Boxingscene is just rewritten material from the original article, and if the writer is lazy, stuff gets left out. It's not like Boxingscene did an original story on this incident.

                I do get your point -- when they say they had been drinking, that could be one beer each before they started fighting. It's vague for sure, but when you're a pretty famous alcoholic, people are going to assume the worst, and too often, they are correct.

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                • riffbox
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                  #48
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                  Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
                  According to the Youngstown Vindicator, the hometown paper of Kelly Pavlik, the former middleweight champion was involved in a physical altercation with his brother, Michael Pavlik Jr., last Friday at their parents home. Youngstown police filed a report Friday stating that Kelly Pavlik, 29, and Michael Pavlik Jr., 35, were involved in a disagreement at the parents home.

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                  It just kills me how people just sit on the sideline and cast judgement on others. At the end of the day this man has accomplished plenty in his life especially coming from that rough town he's from. And that last fight he looked excellent. So him and his brother had a fight. He is battling alcoholism, but the man is still admired. People make mistakes. If anything the loss to Sergio was worst than the one to Hopkins. Watch everyone jump on his sack when he wins another title.

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                  • Medved
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                    #49
                    Theres nothing else to do in Youngstown, i drove by there one time, its a CHITHOLE dead city. They were probably fighting each other for teh lulz and boredom.


                    Im suprised 100% of that town aint Alco's or Druggies, probably like 70% are

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                    • ChopperRead
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Medved
                      Theres nothing else to do in Youngstown, i drove by there one time, its a CHITHOLE dead city. They were probably fighting each other for teh lulz and boredom.


                      Im suprised 100% of that town aint Alco's or Druggies, probably like 70% are
                      It's part of the famous "Rust Belt" where all the industrial jobs vanished and nothing came along to replace them. There's loads of Youngstowns all over America these days.

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