NO robbery Paul won that fight.

[daggum]

lara was almost the first person in compubox history to land at a 100% success rate.

[crillz]

I didn't watch the fight yesterday, i just finished watching it right now. I normally don't watch fights with the intention of scoring when I first watch it, normally I will do that when I watch it over. However, with the outrage on this board last night, I scored the fight on the first watch. Anyways, here is how I have it.

Lara: 1, 2, 3, 6, 10
total: 113

Williams: 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 11, 12
total: 115

Lara clearly won the first 3 rounds. Then after that his work rate completely dropped off. Paul williams came back to win the next two but then Lara returned to 1st round form in the 6th. After that Paul Williams returned the fight to a clear 4-4 match.

At that point I really started looking close. I was saying "why the **** isn't Lara doing anything. I can't score for him if he doesn't do anything." he would land two or three good punches, one big one that didn't hurt paul too much. Then he would start hugging, grabbing paul's head, leaning into him, all kinds of lazy shyt. While Paul would stay active on the outside or inside, regardless, he kept throwing punches. Many of them weren't effective but when scoring the round, Lara would land two punches, disappear for 2 minutes and then try to fight but grazing punches.

Then it got to the point where I had Paul 5-4, then Lara dropped another left that froze Paul in the 10th. That round had little action but the punch froze Paul's body up so Lara got that round. Then Lara did jack **** besides run around the ring and miss punches here and there, while Paul started ripping the jab and sticking him deathly. No power shots but the jab found a home almost every time. Then the final round, Lara just didn't do enough. He looked like he wanted to do stuff but hardly did anything, i guess not wanting to risk it. Where as Paul was still ready to throw down even with his pants on the ground. So, I gave Paul the 12th based on ring generalship. Hardly any punches landed that round but Paul obviously controlled that round.

I also found the commentators eating Lara strudel by the gallon, ******ing over a left hand that would make a sound. Lara landed some really good overhand lefts that warranted good points but a lot of them hit Paul's shoulder or inside glove. While the commentators saw it as if Paul was getting hit flush by a shot that made a lot of sound.

Lara just didn't do enough to win. He was just in the fight, not trying to win the fight.

Paul really did win the fight. It wasn't pretty. He won it ugly style, Froch style but he did what it took to win the fight.

stick to MMA man you don't know shit about Boxing

[snoopymiller]

I actually had Paul winning the 2nd and 3rd rounds.

3 rounds were really close in there that could have gone either way.

People act like the blood and most of the damage to Paul's face came from Lara's punches when in fact they came from headbutts. I'm not saying Lara didn't land anything but if you watch closely, you can see that Lara didn't land frequently enough to cause that type of damage at all.

Alot of over-hand lefts from Lara came close to landing but with the crowd and the commentary going wild over anything remotely close, it makes the viewer feel like it's a one-sided whoopin.

The commentary was strange. ALmost as if it was supposed to be a showcase for Paul and when they found out that it was rightfully a tough fight at 3-1 odds, it's as if Williams is no longer viable. Weak.

[crillz]

I actually had Paul winning the 2nd and 3rd rounds.

3 rounds were really close in there that could have gone either way.

People act like the blood and most of the damage to Paul's face came from Lara's punches when in fact they came from headbutts. I'm not saying Lara didn't land anything but if you watch closely, you can see that Lara didn't land frequently enough to cause that type of damage at all.

Alot of over-hand lefts from Lara came close to landing but with the crowd and the commentary going wild over anything remotely close, it makes the viewer feel like it's a one-sided whoopin.

The commentary was strange. ALmost as if it was supposed to be a showcase for Paul and when they found out that it was rightfully a tough fight at 3-1 odds, it's as if Williams is no longer viable. Weak.

unbelievable, how can you say you're a fan of Boxing and give Williams that fight

[snoopymiller]

unbelievable, how can you say you're a fan of Boxing and give Williams that fight

Did I write that anywhere in my post?

Nope.

Just said it ain't the hysteria that the women here think it is.

[F l i c k e r]

stick to MMA man you don't know shit about Boxing

okay. i'll stick to mma. does that lighten your unwarranted anger?

[boxing_pundit85]

been diagnosed yet?

[TouchyAndalou]

The mistake most of you guys are making is in forgetting that the New Jersey boxing commission scores fights based solely on who can take the most clean hard shots directly in the face. By this system, Paul Williams is actually the guy who got robbed. He should have won 12-0.

[Lorily]

I don't normally take compubox in to consideration, but in this case you can't look at it in it's entirety and not see that Williams was busier, but Lara was more accurate. It's the punches LANDED that counts, and Williams wasn't landing his shots. You just can't ignore that.

It's right here in living color.

Power Punches Landed / Thrown

Round	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11	12
Williams	5/21	11/46	16/65	19/83	23/78	22/91	16/74	10/63	6/41	16/85	8/60	9/59
	24%	24%	25%	23%	29%	24%	22%	16%	15%	19%	13%	15%
Lara	17/30	11/26	17/27	11/32	15/37	20/35	21/33	12/26	13/19	12/32	16/36	13/30
	57%	42%	63%	34%	41%	57%	64%	46%	68%	38%	44%	43%

And Lara clearly didn't "fade" after the 6th, again the #'s can't be denied to what was thrown and landed - in comparison to both Laras other rounds and what Williams was throwing/landing. You might think Lara was'nt active enough but what he was throwing he was landing a LARGE percentage of. Williams was not.

It seems to be a clear case of Williams throwing more and landing LESS. Last I heard, you don't get points for "trying" to hit but missing the mark. This situation reminds me of the Alexander/Kotelnik fight. Just because Alexander had flash doesn't mean he was doing anything with it. Same with Williams.

[crillz]

okay. i'll stick to mma. does that lighten your unwarranted anger?

anger? I'm angry at the 3 judges who sold out to HBO and Williams people not you nor Williams himself, he's a pawn but he lost that fight and in his heart he knows it he's just too full of shit to admit it, there is no way else to put it, it was a clear robbery. there is absolutely ZERO room for picking Williams and anyone who does was either paid by HBO and Goosen or they don't know shit about Boxing, you fall into the latter is all I'm saying and I'm just informing you of that

Those 3 judges were paid off and that's just the truth, you can ask me for proof and while yes I can't give you proof I think the proof is clear because round for round Lara dominated, the pitter patter that Williams threw was nothing compared to Lara's bombs, he threw half the punches and landed as many as Williams did if not more, he made Paul miss over 400 punches simply by using effective aggressiveness and ring generalship, he hurt Paul and wobbled him many more times and overall won the fight but it was taken from him