Who deserved to win: Williams or Lara?

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  • daggum
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    #81
    Originally posted by F l i c k e r
    lol, i really thought williams won sooooo yah know.


    but i may have excluded the defensive aspect to the match, so i can't stand on my decision too faithfully. got to watch it again i guess.
    williams lost the offensive aspect by huge margins. williams lost the defensive aspect by huge margins. the 2 most important things in judging. what's left? effective aggression and ring generalship. if you can't land cleanly your aggression isn't very effective and if you keep running into punches over and over you are the type of general who gets all his troops killed.

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    • F l i c k e r
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      #82
      Originally posted by daggum
      williams lost the offensive aspect by huge margins. williams lost the defensive aspect by huge margins. the 2 most important things in judging. what's left? effective aggression and ring generalship. if you can't land cleanly your aggression isn't very effective and if you keep running into punches over and over you are the type of general who gets all his troops killed.

      well, your obviously emotionally attached to the fight. so i won't express any opinion in response. because i rather not flame war.

      but, yes. those are all criteria in a boxing match.

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      • b0ndsj0ns20
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        #83
        It hurts me to say because I love Paul and drove from North Carolina to AC to watch the fight, but he lost and it wasn't close. Only rounds I for sure thought he won were 4 and 5 and only because Lara didn't do much and he uglied them up. I hate they gave him the decision, because really it makes people hate on him more when all he did was give it his all and just wasn't skilled or good enough to beat a guy who finally showed all the talent and potential people thought he had. Lara IMO beats every single guy at 154, and I believe it even more now after watching Molina beat the pants off of Cintron.

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        • Cuauhtémoc1520
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          #84
          Honestly, this is a troll thread to bait people into a discussion about something that was clearly obvious.

          I have never seen a fight where the announcers were talking about whether or not the fight should have been stopped it was so one sided and then the guy getting a beating was given the decision.

          This is everything that is wrong with boxing and with boxing talk. Paul Williams should retire if he wants to be able to talk to his children and live a normal life. His defense is non existent and if he continues to fight he's going to end up like Meldrick Taylor.

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          • junior gong
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            #85
            This was an absolute travesty, no question Lara should have won, but one thing I never understand about this forum is why people actually come off like they blame the other fighter. Paul isnt the judge, he doesnt score the fight.

            My heart goes out to Lara, it really does. This fight doesnt require a rematch as it wasnt really close, but thats the very best Erislandy can hope for as hell will freeze over before a decision like this gets overturned.

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            • The Hammer
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              #86
              The following 9 people scored it for Williams:

              BoZz, Cuauhtémoc1502, Forza, Imatroll, joeee, Player3, puga, SpinDoctor, Uturn

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              • junior gong
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                #87
                Originally posted by Freedom.
                BoZz, Cuauhtémoc1502, Forza, Imatroll, joeee, Player3, puga, SpinDoctor, Uturn
                Need eye tests?

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                • b0ndsj0ns20
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by junior gong
                  This was an absolute travesty, no question Lara should have won, but one thing I never understand about this forum is why people actually come off like they blame the other fighter. Paul isnt the judge, he doesnt score the fight.

                  My heart goes out to Lara, it really does. This fight doesnt require a rematch as it wasnt really close, but thats the very best Erislandy can hope for as hell will freeze over before a decision like this gets overturned.
                  I agree I hate it too that people will use the horrible judging to take shots and blame PW. All he did was go out there and lay it on the line. He wasn't good enough and has clearly lost a lot, but for what his performance lacked in skill it made up for in hearts and guts. That's why he is my favorite fighter in boxing. That's why I still say I am proud to be a fan of his and proud I made the trip to AC to see him fight. He has never been in a boring fight win or lose and never will be.

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                  • The Hammer
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by b0ndsj0ns20
                    I agree I hate it too that people will use the horrible judging to take shots and blame PW. All he did was go out there and lay it on the line. He wasn't good enough and has clearly lost a lot, but for what his performance lacked in skill it made up for in hearts and guts. That's why he is my favorite fighter in boxing. That's why I still say I am proud to be a fan of his and proud I made the trip to AC to see him fight. He has never been in a boring fight win or lose and never will be.
                    People shouldn't hate Williams, he showed tremendous heart. Even though he was repeatedly hurt, he kept on fighting hard.

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                    • ИATAS
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                      #90
                      bobo_bobo, BoZz, Cuauhtémoc1502, Forza, Imatroll, joeee, Player3, puga, SpinDoctor, Uturn

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