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  • SLIMZ
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    #11
    Originally posted by Martin (Top Knowledge)
    Heavy - Vitali Klitschko
    Cruiser - Jean Marc Mormeck
    Light Heavy - Antonio Tarver
    Super Middle - Jeff Lacy - You might like him but he ain't there yet. Coz' he beat an old Reid/Sheika? - guys that Calzaghe beat 5-8yrs ago.
    Middle - Jermain Taylor
    Jr Middle - Roman Karmazin (lots of debate here)
    Welter - Zab Judah
    Jr Welter - Floyd Mayweather - Again you might like him but beating up poor old Gatti isn't even close to dethroning King Kostya.
    Light - Diego Corrales
    Super Feather - Marco Antonio Barrera
    Feather - JM Marquez
    Super Bantam - Oscar Larios
    Bantam - Rafael Marquez


    Other than them two... I agree.
    I still prefer karmazin for jr mid and pac for super feather.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Martin (Top Knowledge)
      Super Middle - Jeff Lacy - You might like him but he ain't there yet. Coz' he beat an old Reid/Sheika? - guys that Calzaghe beat 5-8yrs ago.
      Calzaghe has done nothing since he beat them 5-8 years ago. Why is he the man? Coz' he beat a blown up middle weight Evans Ashira and Mario Veit a punk he already KO'ed in the 1st round - guys so bad Lacy wouldn't even think bout using them as sparring partners.
      Originally posted by Martin (Top Knowledge)
      Jr Welter - Floyd Mayweather - Again you might like him but beating up poor old Gatti isn't even close to dethroning King Kostya.
      Beating one good fighter in your whole career isn't even close to being a champ in multiple weight divisions and having scalps on your list such as Corrales, Hernandez, Chavez, Castillo X2 and Gatti.

      P.S B-Hop is the man @ 160 lbs.
      Last edited by The Golden Boy; 10-06-2005, 07:13 AM.

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        #13
        Originally posted by The Golden Boy
        Calzaghe has done nothing since he beat them 5-8 years ago. Why is he the man? Coz' he beat a blown up middle weight Evans Ashira and Mario Veit a punk he already KO'ed in the 1st round - guys so bad Lacy wouldn't even think bout using them as sparring partners.
        If you genuinly think Jeff Lacy is "The man" @168lbs then There's no helping you, but try to think about it this way... It's not a popularity contest.

        Joe Calzaghe is currently: 40-0-0 (31 ko's), he's won and defended his WBO belt 18 times on the bounce over the last 8yrs. He's beaten 5 World champions.

        Jeff Lacy maybe the flavour of the month, but all he's done is beat an old shop worn Reid and an old shop worn Shieka. (Both of which Calzaghe beat 5-7yrs ago when they were in their primes).

        Calzaghe has beaten World champion since beating Shieka and Reid.

        You must see the difference between the two???

        Originally posted by The Golden Boy
        Beating one good fighter in your whole career isn't even close to been a champ in multiple weight divisions and having scalps on your list such as Corrales, Hernandez, Chavez, Castillo X2 and Gatti.

        P.S B-Hop is the man @ 160 lbs.
        Mayweather's resume is better than Judah's aswell, so by what your saying... Maweather could move to 147lbs, not fight anyone besides say, an old Shamba Mitchell and then move on to 154lbs all the while being "the man" of those divisions?

        Boxing doesn't work that way. You have to earn those belts... The way Ricky Hatton had to walk through fire to get his hands on them. The way Judah had to accept $100,000 in Corey Spinks's hometown.

        Psssst... Word around the camp fire, is that Bernard lost his last fight to Jermain Taylor and lost all his belts.


        All I can say to you is, this isn't a popularity contest!

        Last edited by Martin (Top Knowledge); 10-06-2005, 07:15 AM.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Martin (Top Knowledge)
          Joe Calzaghe is currently: 40-0-0 (31 ko's), he's won and defended his WBO belt 18 times on the bounce over the last 8yrs. He's beaten 5 World champions.
          Joe Calzaghe beats paper champs and ducks real ones.

          Originally posted by Martin (Top Knowledge)
          Mayweather's resume is better than Judah's aswell, so by what your saying... Maweather could move to 147lbs, not fight anyone besides say, an old Shamba Mitchell and then move on to 154lbs all the while being "the man" of those divisions?
          OK, i agree Hatton is the man at 140 but Mayweather is the man p4p. Hatton's reign as the man will end as soon as he meets Mayweather in the ring.

          Originally posted by Martin (Top Knowledge)
          Psssst... Word around the camp fire, is that Bernard lost his last fight to Jermain Taylor and lost all his belts.


          All I can say to you is, this isn't a popularity contest!

          If it wasn't a popularity contest then Hopkins wouldn't have got ****ed out of his belts. I hope the people around the camp fire fall in and get 3rd degree burns to 83% of their body!!!
          Last edited by The Golden Boy; 10-06-2005, 07:55 AM.

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            #15
            Originally posted by The Golden Boy
            Joe Calzaghe beats paper champs and ducks real ones.
            Byron Mitchell - Is a 2 time WBA World champion
            Charles Brewer - Won and defended the IBF Super-middleweight belt 5 times
            Richie Woodhall - Won and defended the WBC Super-middleweight belt 4 times
            Robin Reid - Won and defended the WBC Super-middleweight belt 5 times
            Chris Eubank - Won and defended the WBO middleweight belt 5 times before moving up in weight to capture the WBO Super-middleweight belt and defending it a further 16 times. (21 in all)

            These aren't paper champs.

            Originally posted by The Golden Boy
            OK, i agree Hatton is the man at 147 but Mayweather is the man p4p. Hatton's reign as the man will end as soon as he meets Mayweather in the ring.
            Hatton is the man @140lbs, Judah is the man @147lbs... I hope for nothing more than Hatton vs Mayweather because I think Hatton will win TKO Rd 10.

            Originally posted by The Golden Boy
            If it wasn't a popularity contest then Hopkins wouldn't have got ****ed out of his belts. I hope the people around the camp fire fall in and get 3rd degree burns to 83% of their body!!!
            Well that's your opinion... Lot's of people believe Taylor won the fight. (Including me, I think Hopkins didn't do enough in the 1st 6 rounds)... Either way, I wouldn't say that Bernard was robbed, because if a fight is this close, it can't be a robbery.
            Last edited by Martin (Top Knowledge); 10-06-2005, 07:54 AM.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Tito Fan 83
              Regardless of belts or rank, who do you rank as the top guy in each division?

              Heavy - Vitali Klitschko
              Cruiser - Jean Marc Mormeck
              Light Heavy - Antonio Tarver
              Super Middle - Jeff Lacy
              Middle - Jermain Taylor
              Jr Middle - Roman Karmazin (lots of debate here)
              Welter - Zab Judah
              Jr Welter - Floyd Mayweather
              Light - Diego Corrales
              Super Feather - Marco Antonio Barrera
              Feather - JM Marquez
              Super Bantam - Oscar Larios
              Bantam - Rafael Marquez
              i don't even know why bother posting. Jest copy yer list cuz it's ta perfect one. LOL. Havin a different one would be hard to explain.
              Maybe Mayweather and Hatton are 140lbs kings.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Martin (Top Knowledge)
                Byron Mitchell - Is a 2 time WBA World champion
                Charles Brewer - Won and defended the IBF Super-middleweight belt 5 times
                Richie Woodhall - Won and defended the WBC Super-middleweight belt 4 times
                Robin Reid - Won and defended the WBC Super-middleweight belt 5 times
                Chris Eubank - Won and defended the WBO middleweight belt 5 times before moving up in weight to capture the WBO Super-middleweight belt and defending it a further 16 times. (21 in all)

                These aren't paper champs.
                Byron Mitchell - Never beat a name fighter his whole career and lost each time he stepped up in competition. Paper champ
                Charles Brewer - Has 8 losses including Mario Veit and Lolenga Mock. Only noteable win against fringe contender Scott Pemberton. Paper champ
                Richie Woodhall - No noteable wins, backyard fighter who got KO'ed in his 1 and only fight in the US. Paper champ

                Beat an over the hill Eubank in 1997 and Reid in 1999. How long can you ride your only credible victory?
                Last edited by The Golden Boy; 10-06-2005, 08:21 AM.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Martin (Top Knowledge)
                  Well that's your opinion... Lot's of people believe Taylor won the fight. (Including me, I think Hopkins didn't do enough in the 1st 6 rounds)... Either way, I wouldn't say that Bernard was robbed, because if a fight is this close, it can't be a robbery.
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                    #19
                    I scored Taylor/Hopkins 9 rounds to 3, its amazing people say Hopkins won...

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Tito Fan 83
                      Regardless of belts or rank, who do you rank as the top guy in each division?

                      Heavy - Vitali Klitschko
                      Cruiser - Jean Marc Mormeck
                      Light Heavy - Antonio Tarver
                      Super Middle - Jeff Lacy
                      Middle - Jermain Taylor
                      Jr Middle - Roman Karmazin (lots of debate here)
                      Welter - Zab Judah
                      Jr Welter - Floyd Mayweather
                      Light - Diego Corrales
                      Super Feather - Marco Antonio Barrera
                      Feather - JM Marquez
                      Super Bantam - Oscar Larios
                      Bantam - Rafael Marquez
                      I agree with all that except....I still have Hopkins #1 at middle he did not LOSE...he may not have won either but clearly was not beaten.

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