Comments Thread For: Arum Tells Mayweather: Walk The Walk, Fight Pacquiao

[tomhawq]

I find it odd that you remember this video, but cannot remember seeing the video a month later on Pacquaio/Margarito 24/7 in which Pac's adviser admitted that they wanted a 7-day cutoff for drug testing against Mayweather. No amount of lies and distortions will change the fact that Pacquaio continues to refuse to take random blood tests, whether it is against Mayweather or anyone else.

i also find it odd that you folks prefer not to believe koncz when he said several weeks ago that floyd rejected the $50 million guarantee offer and instead demanded $100 million, but willing to believe koncz about the 7 day cut-off.

and why on earth would you prefer to believe koncz over pac? isn't it more natural to hang on to something that would give the fight a chance of happening than the one that derails it?

that's just odd.

[LeadUppercut]

pacman is on video saying he will take the test homie. so save your saliva. all your points are useless. floyd doesn't even have balls to enter pac negotiations. all it takes is send ellerbe out there and negotiate for him.

Then pacman needs to show that video to his adviser, Michael Koncz.....

July 07, 2011

" he hates needles..... we agreed to, in the past, random testing as long as when we get tested, he gets tested, up to 14 days..... "
~ Michael Koncz

http://www.fighthype.com/pages/conte...ee234684586f7a

[LeadUppercut]

floyd has done enough talking......prove you aint scared floyd....

Well, at least he aint scared of needles, or JMW's.....

http://www.fighthype.com/pages/conte...ee234684586f7a

[puga]

Then pacman needs to show that video to his adviser, Michael Koncz.....

July 07, 2011

" he hates needles..... we agreed to, in the past, random testing as long as when we get tested, he gets tested, up to 14 days..... "
~ Michael Koncz

http://www.fighthype.com/pages/conte...ee234684586f7a

thats konz not pacquiao.....floyd sr didnt want his son to fight pac.....that must be truer then since he's floyd jr's daddy...konz is just pacs adviser.....

[Story]

Floyd is scared for no reason just like people who are scared of roller coasters.

[a_ron]

[QUOTE=STRUGG;10805927]floyd is quite content being a vagina...........no thank you bob.................LOL[/QUOTE

Maywhether will never fight Pacman. And If I am in his shoes i will do the same. Why should I gamble my unblemish record after all Floyd has no nothing to prove he is still the world pound for pound boxer.Same with Pacman he need not fight floyd to solidify his name in the boxing history.

[Brother Jay]

Warning: This ain't for those accustomed to Cliff Notes!!!!

floyd has done enough talking......prove you aint scared floyd....

Who is scared:

Floyd ... who has given Pacquiao a surefire way for Pacquiao to meet him in the ring to settle their business with fists

-or-

Pacquiao ... who has for 3 years used and excuse to avoid getting in the ring and using his fists to quiet all of his critics?

Floyd is willing to fight Pacquiao. A USADA random test shouldn't be the make or break point for a fight that will generate over $100 million unless something is amiss.

"Takes the tests and we have a fight. Don't take the tests and there is no fight." - Floyd Mayweather

You can't get any more plain than that. What *******s are implying is like saying "Shane Mosley is a coward because he wouldn't fight Margarito with loaded gloves. If Shane is so good, why does he care? He should beat him anyway, right?"

You fcuking peasants make me sick. Don't talk about a professional fighter being scared of another fighter. Talk about a professional fighter holding up a fight for 3 years because he knows that what flows through his veins will shame the entire Filipino race!

All the **** you've been talking just to find out that Manny can't win unless he puts dope in his body. It shows that he needs special help like all *******s do. If Pacquiao is found guilty of using illegal PEDs, how will this impact his career as a congressman in his mud-slide nation? If he cheated in boxing, won't that mean he would be open to cheating as a politician?

Who stands to lose more? If Mayweather, by some longshot chance, were to lose to Pacquiao, it wouldn't erase all of the great things he's done in and for boxing. He would simply rematch. If Floyd lost he still would be the highest paid and biggest draw.

If Pacquiao takes those tests and fails JUST ONCE, what little integrity is left in everything he's done would instantly be over. He would be labeled a cheater. His past accolades would be revoked. He would be stripped. He would lose out on an 8 figure payday. He would be counter sued by Floyd Mayweather for bringing him to court. He would lose all credibility as a congressman because at that point his word would be worth less than nothing. And he'd be back to eating Benji for breakfast and Rin Tin Tin for din din.

The saddest part of all this is that NONE of that even matters. Arum and Roach don't give a fcuk about Manny Pacquiao life, legacy or career outside of boxing. All that **** could happen and neither Roach or Arum would lose a night of sleep.

Do you know what would make Arum lose a night of sleep? HE COULDN'T MAKE MONEY OFF THE MUD MONKEY PEASANT ANYMORE!!!! Arum isn't making any real money off Cotto, Clottey, Margarito or Khan. Unless those fighters are fighting Mayweather or Pacquiao they are for all intents and purposes USELESS to Arum. Pacquiao, right now, is THEE ONLY money maker Arum has right now. If Pacquiao were to lose at this point to ANYONE, the only way he'd be generating anywhere close to his current numbers is if he were to beg Mayweather to let him take the tests and accept a 60/40 split!

There is just too much that can go wrong if Pacquiao takes those tests. Everything he's done could and possibly would be undone and his Pappy Arum would be furious with him. As it is, Pacquiao parts with more than 50% of all money he generates because Arum takes a huge slice out of everything Manny makes. Roach gets a piece of Manny. Golden Boy promotions gets a piece[25%] of Pacquiao every time he fights because of a settlement.

No one wants to lose the only willing slave that they have! That god damn Mayweather got all uppity and went off on his own and is keeping all his money! Ungrateful bastard! Arum and DLH will NEVER let go of Pacquiao. They will NEVER put him in a position to lose. This is exactly why Arum has been spin-doctoring Manny's refusal to take the tests as Floyd's supposed unwillingness to fight!!

Boxing has largely opened its eyes. Its the boxing media that needs to cut the bull**** and call Arum and Manny out on their lies and antics.

The fans need to boycott Ring Magazine until they step up their efforts to tell the story as its really happening. The writers might be getting kickbacks from Arum, but they couldn't stand to lose subscribers in this era of magazines and newspapers closing down. And we all know that it ain't the Filipinos that are buying subscriptions. THEY CAN'T READ!!

Fcuking peasants are unbelievable.

[dan-b]

You are nothing but a fkn clown.

Just another non-boxing flag-waving fanboi.

FACT: I say whatever the *** I want kid, anytime, anywhere, anyone..... I would change that if I could, but thats just how it is.

Deal with it ^^

BTW kid, here are a couple more facts for ya.....
1.) blood tests are completely harmless
2.) taking a test is easier than spending 3 years making up ridiculous excuses
3.) hate is worthless and can easily be discredited

Tell me something fanboi.....

Team Pacquiao gave a grand total of 7 different ridiculous excuses to justify why Pac refused to undertake random blood tests without a 24-day cutoff, which is simply absurd, because requiring 7 different excuses means that none of them were genuine.....

Which one of those ridiculous excuses did you believe ?

You need to reply to this post bigmouth, it is time for you to "walk the walk".

Which one of those ridiculous excuses did you believe ?

When you address me in an intelligent manner, I may respond to your questions. I can almost guarantee you wouldn't defame if your identity was readily available. You're the epitome of a keyboard warrior - the fact you want to pigeonhole everyone into a 'camp' speaks realms.

How about you reveal your identity, if you have nothing to fear? That way you can present the hard evidence you obviously have to the relevant authorities and have Pac's boxing licence suspended and have him arrested.

[GRUSTLER]

floyd is quite content being a vagina...........no thank you bob.................LOL

Maywhether will never fight Pacman. And If I am in his shoes i will do the same. Why should I gamble my unblemish record after all Floyd has no nothing to prove he is still the world pound for pound boxer.Same with Pacman he need not fight floyd to solidify his name in the boxing history.

I tell you what. If this fight happens then come see me and I'll bet you 3MIL that Floyd totally dismantles Pacquiao and Roach throws in the towel. On another note. you guys have to learn how replying to posts works. Had to fix the posts because they were combined together. Didn't know who posts what.

[LeadUppercut]

When you address me in an intelligent manner, I may respond to your questions. I can almost guarantee you wouldn't defame if your identity was readily available. You're the epitome of a keyboard warrior - the fact you want to pigeonhole everyone into a 'camp' speaks realms.

How about you reveal your identity, if you have nothing to fear? That way you can present the hard evidence you obviously have to the relevant authorities and have Pac's boxing licence suspended and have him arrested.

OK, fair call. But it is not intelligent of you to get personal and make assumptions about my character

I will make an effort then.

Good point, and the poster " Tangalong " I think, made a similar observation.

I will give myself an uppercut, delete the two posts I made that contained certain "phrases" that may not necessarily be conducive to good conversation

Here is my reply then, it is the same as my reply to you on the other thread, because it is the same issue.....

Dan, instead of focusing on the personal nature of this situation, lets deal with the facts that concern the two fighters.....

1.) Team Pacquiao gave a grand total of 7 different ridiculous excuses to justify why Manny would not undertake random blood tests without a 24-day cutoff..... which is absurd, because requiring 7 different excuses means that none of them were genuine.

Which one of those 7 ridiculous excuses did you believe ?

Come on man, you must have found one of those excuses to be reasonable, otherwise..... how could you possibly condone a needless action that killed the biggest fight in boxing history?

Plus, your answer will tell me exactly where you are at in terms of your honesty, and integrity, as well as your boxing knowledge.

Which one of those 7 ridiculous excuses did you believe ?

2.) You raised the subject of " investigative journalism ". When you did that, I assume that you meant, as opposed to reading some hogwash on the internet and running with it?

So, I want to know your personal opinion regarding the infamous "second" negotiations,..... you know, the one that took place without any of the parties concerned even meeting, let alone discussing any of the details

Lets find out who really reads hogwash off the internet and decides to run with it.

3.) I also want to hear your opinion on the following point in regards to the "lawsuit". You know, the legal action that Pacquiao initiated against Mayweather. The legal action that is absolutely unnecessary, completely blocking the fight, and would be completely redundant if Pacquiao took a harmless little blood test. The same test that Shane took, the same test that Mayweather took, the same test that Ortiz will take, and the same test that any other clean athlete would take.

Read the post below, and give me an honest assessment.

How does the Pacquiao " lawsuit " compare with Bob Arum's opinion regarding the lawsuit that was filed by the Collins family?

KEYWORD: " pathetic ".

This'll be interesting.....

And btw, if you need a link to prove that Arum made that comment, just ask