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Looks like I'm no longer Boxingscene's residend Zavec fans. There appear to be Zavec nuthuggers coming out of the woodwork. God help us
On the serous: Zavec's underrated. Check the punches he's throwing in the video I posted on the first page on this thread. The dude can bang and bring that pressure. Berto, on the other hand, is being written off since his loss to Ortiz, but Ortiz is a fast puncher who's knocked down every single one of his opponents. Berto has good power and excellent speed. Dejan has never fought anyone nearly as good as Bero.
This is an interesting fight that will answer questions about both guys.
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Originally posted by paulf View PostLooks like I'm no longer Boxingscene's residend Zavec fans. There appear to be Zavec nuthuggers coming out of the woodwork. God help us
On the serous: Zavec's underrated. Check the punches he's throwing in the video I posted on the first page on this thread. The dude can bang and bring that pressure. Berto, on the other hand, is being written off since his loss to Ortiz, but Ortiz is a fast puncher who's knocked down every single one of his opponents. Berto has good power and excellent speed. Dejan has never fought anyone nearly as good as Bero.
This is an interesting fight that will answer questions about both guys.
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Don't know why so many people say Berto is overrated since most posters piss on him and few talk like he is a superstar. He was gifted a title belt - like a lot of "champions" today, but I don't think his title defense competition has been that bad.
I like what I see in Zaveck but, with only a few notable exceptions, his competition has been weak so far so it's tough to say what he will do against the top welterweights.
Having watched both, I would go with Berto by tough, close decision.
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http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=6747449
"I was watching tapes of Zaveck and
he's better than I thought he would
be," DiBella said. "I still think my guy
wins, but Zaveck is a quality fighter."
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Originally posted by Buffalo View PostI don't disagree with your breakdown of the ortiz berto fight but despite all that stuff you said, did berto have ortiz on the verge of stoppage? you think "here we go again" was running through ortiz's mind? that fight was going to be over except for that quick left that made steward call out to god........
That's why I say he lost because of recklessness. It rejuvanated a mentally weak opponent and sank berto. Berto goes in with controlled aggression and he's still undefeated and ortiz probably is a broadcaster.
All the more reason for haters to stop with the anti berto and ortiz nonsense. That was a war and neither man backed down. Despite berto's lack of condition and ortiz's lack of mental toughness
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Originally posted by WitherGlove View PostPersonally I think you're underestimating Berto if anything his biggest problem is fighting on the inside.
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Originally posted by paulf View PostLooks like I'm no longer Boxingscene's residend Zavec fans. There appear to be Zavec nuthuggers coming out of the woodwork. God help us
On the serous: Zavec's underrated. Check the punches he's throwing in the video I posted on the first page on this thread. The dude can bang and bring that pressure. Berto, on the other hand, is being written off since his loss to Ortiz, but Ortiz is a fast puncher who's knocked down every single one of his opponents. Berto has good power and excellent speed. Dejan has never fought anyone nearly as good as Bero.
This is an interesting fight that will answer questions about both guys.
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i have to give props to zavec for taking such an opponent for his US debut. many others boxers started with easier opponents to test the grounds. i really been wondering how the US public will react. here in slovenia he's always fought in a full house. recently before over 12,000. i've been wondering how they will promote this and to whom. berto is not somebody to attract huge crowds afterall.
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Zaveck is good fighter but I dont know if he is world class yet, this fight will show us IMO, his best 2 fights were against Rafal Jackiewicz which were 2 great close fights.
I would have liked to see Jan fight higher quality opponents in Germany/UK/USA. This is definitely a big step-up in Berto and we will see exactly how world class Jan is.
I will always support my Slavic brothers against bums like Berto so war Jan.
Hopefully all those years fighting bums in Slovenia and making lots of cash didnt hurt your chances of being the best you could be
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