Chris Eubank... one of the best boxers of the last three decades

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  • !! Anorak
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    Chris Eubank... one of the best boxers of the last three decades

    You know what I get upset about on here? JuyJuy uploading all these old Eubank interviews and pics and so on. JuyJuy, God love 'im, doesn't seem to realise he's actually putting people OFF Eubank by saturating the board with talk about him.

    Why this saddens is me is that it makes people hate Eubank when... he really WAS a damn good boxer.


    There was speculation of Eubank's quote "big fish in a small pond", (referring to his never travelling to America) but I can see what he meant. In America, as a PERSONALITY, he would have to compete. For Eubank - and this is one reason boxing fans hate him - openly did boxing as a BUSINESS.

    He had his fair share of substantial competition - Nigel Benn and, tragically, Michael Watson - and his personality more than raked it in. Why travel and possibly get robbed when you can stay in your own country and earn cash with people who know you?

    Eubank used to be so hated for his ring persona that I once came out of a club after Eubank-Benn II (which was showing in pubs all over England - unthinkable now) with gangs shouting "Eubank is a wanker!" I was tempted to shout "so's Nigel Benn" but it could have meant being hospitalised, so great was the passion against the man.

    But what was he like as a BOXER? Man, he was GOOD. REALLY. I know you must hate hearing JuyJuy telling you this seven days a week, but he REALLY was. In his autobiography (released probably around 2003, cetainly before Roy's fall from grace) he speculated over whether he could have beaten Roy if they had met. "I doubt it" he honestly admitted. But is beating Roy what it takes? And it was still no means certain.

    This guy had strength, punching power, a chin to die for, and - most of all - he was SMART. He was no clubbing monster, he was a real boxer's boxer, who used intelligent ringcraft and used a perception of arrogance to make the public hate him... and therefore pay a fortune in the hope of seeing him get knocked out.

    Up to 1994 he was 41 wins, two draws, with a decent 19 KOs. It was only towards the end of his career that he picked up five losses, including two from Carl Thompson when he foolishly (though commendably) decided to try moving up to Cruiserweight.

    On another thread someone joked about Eubank fighting "bums". If only for the two names I mentioned earlier - Benn and Watson - then Eubank didn't fight bums.

    I don't really feel I've done this guy justice at all, it's late, I'm rambling. But I just wanted to say... he really was a great boxer.
  • ZeIronOne
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    i wouldnt class him as great but he was very good, overall good skilss and outstanding chin, but could be outworked and outhustled, shame he didnt travel the world more in his defences or go for other titles (apart from benns and i think he only went for that cos he was a big favorite).
    Classic tho how he got out of dons promotional ties in that fight, nothing wa said about a draw so eubank got away from don lol

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    • !! Anorak
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      Originally posted by ZeIronOne
      i wouldnt class him as great but he was very good, overall good skilss and outstanding chin, but could be outworked and outhustled, shame he didnt travel the world more in his defences or go for other titles (apart from benns and i think he only went for that cos he was a big favorite).
      Classic tho how he got out of dons promotional ties in that fight, nothing wa said about a draw so eubank got away from don lol
      Yeah, that was outstanding... Don had him under lock and key if he won or lost. Or ****, Don, it's a draw!

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      • Konstantin
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        You said 19 KOs in 41 wins? That cant be right...

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        • Moschino045
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          The thing about Eubank is that he fell short of his potential, before the Watson incident he was a genuine "potential fighter of the decade" but after the Watson incident he preferred to do only just enough to keep his title while not going out of his way to try and win everything and certainly lost his finishing instinct PostWatson/ such a shame, cos he could of won everything and could of stopped anybody (he only had a couple of stoppage wins PostWatson),

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          • Londonerzz
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            Originally posted by Moschino045
            The thing about Eubank is that he fell short of his potential, before the Watson incident he was a genuine "potential fighter of the decade" but after the Watson incident he preferred to do only just enough to keep his title while not going out of his way to try and win everything and certainly lost his finishing instinct PostWatson/ such a shame, cos he could of won everything and could of stopped anybody (he only had a couple of stoppage wins PostWatson),
            this is particularly clear when u look at collins I fight and then carl thompson fight....eubank literally stops. he just doesnt finish the guy off when u kno he can - eubank was such a sic finisher....he wud just tee off with these amazingly accurate shots (remember henry wharton fight).

            The same goes for roy jones after wat happened to gmac - rjj didnt wanna inflict huge destruction on opponents. Apparantly against the body snatcher he let the fight go 12rds much cos of his respect for the jamaican.

            the more i thinl bout it the more i think eubank v roy jones wud have been technically and skills wise a beautiful fight to watch

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            • ChrististheAnswer2
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              #7
              Chris Eubank is overrated.

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              • Moschino045
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                Originally posted by Londonerzz
                this is particularly clear when u look at collins I fight and then carl thompson fight....eubank literally stops. he just doesnt finish the guy off when u kno he can - eubank was such a sic finisher....he wud just tee off with these amazingly accurate shots (remember henry wharton fight).

                The same goes for roy jones after wat happened to gmac - rjj didnt wanna inflict huge destruction on opponents. Apparantly against the body snatcher he let the fight go 12rds much cos of his respect for the jamaican.

                the more i thinl bout it the more i think eubank v roy jones wud have been technically and skills wise a beautiful fight to watch
                Agreed, Banks is certainly one of the most underrated fighters of alltime cos people r JEALOUS of him cos of all the money he made and also didnt like his posturin n stuff.

                i think a Eubank V RJJ fight in 1992 would of been the thing of beauty, Eubank was poetry in motion at his best and RJJ was a wonderkid back then.

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                • Londonerzz
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                  Originally posted by Moschino045
                  Agreed, Banks is certainly one of the most underrated fighters of alltime cos people r JEALOUS of him cos of all the money he made and also didnt like his posturin n stuff.

                  i think a Eubank V RJJ fight in 1992 would of been the thing of beauty, Eubank was poetry in motion at his best and RJJ was a wonderkid back then.
                  yeh wud have been a great fight...i think at that time eubank wud have been physically quite a bit bigger then roy jones...i think roy wud win on points in the end thou....not a fight for the guys who like guts and glory kidna fight as these 2 wud be trying to counter punch each other all day

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                  • Moschino045
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                    Eubank would win the first half of the fight, RJJ would win the second of the fight, the end result would be 113-115 RJJ,

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