Does the Mike Tyson (circ.2000) that made Golota surrender beat both Wlad & Vitali?

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  • Deal With It
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    #51
    Originally posted by ChopperRead
    Nobody KOs Vitali Klitschko.
    Except for Lennox Lewis, which is the only A+ level fighter that he's fought.

    Tyson was great but is overrated by some.
    Most Certainly, but compared to the career of the Klitschko's, he's a boxing god.

    Biggest wins were over a shot Larry Holmes
    If Larry Holmes was shot when he faught Tyson, Than Lewis was shot when he beat Vitali's face in.

    and UNDEFEATED FORMER HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION Michael Spinks.
    fix'd

    Even prime Tyson would have trouble with either Klitschko. They are too strong for him to get inside.
    Nope, weighing more because of your height, dosen't equate being stronger. Tyson was clearly stronger and a much harder hitter than both Klits. Both bros. have no inside game and would get absolutely obliterated on the inside.

    Tyson struggled with "big" men like Quick Tillis
    Tillis was smaller than Tyson. And Wlad not only "struggled" but got KO'd by C & D level bums Corrie Sanders & Ross Purrity in his 2nd & 7th year as a pro. Yet you're citing a fight that Tyson won when he was a pro for a little over 1 year as a grasp for straws at pointing out his supposed flaws.

    This version of Tyson loses to both K-Bros. Prime Tyson loses to prime Vitali.
    Both Klit's have 0 wins over A+ level, hall of fame caliber fighters, no reason to believe that any incarnation of the Klit's would beat any incarnation of Tyson from 85-2000

    Originally posted by ChopperRead
    Sanders had a punch that could rattle anyone, including Tyson
    Which is the reason he doesn't have 1 win over a top ten ranked heavyweight (let alone a champion), except for Wlad of course.

    Vitali took the shots from Lennox Lewis that put Tyson on his ass and didn't flinch.
    A prime Vitali got his face beat in so bad by an OLD Lewis, that they had to stop the fight, Vitali was walking on noodles by the end of the 6th round.

    Originally posted by Wazaa..
    The Klitschko's destroy any version of Mike Tyson. People like to laugh at the current hw competition but forget that the Mike Tyson beat nothing but trash on his way up.
    And Wlad got beat by nothing but trash on his way up.

    Tyson has 2 victories over 1st ballad hall of famers, and several other fights with hall of famers.

    The Klitschko's combined had 1 fight with a hall of fame boxer with a winning percentage of 0% against said hall of famers.


    Ever watch his "prime" fights on espn classic and not laugh hysterically at the absolute bums he was k.o'ing?
    Ever log into youtube and not laugh hysterically at the bums Wlad was getting KO'd by?

    Tyson made short work of bums, while bums made short work of wlad.


    Originally posted by paypayvay
    and exactly how is getting wobbled from a 6'4 250 pounder with a big punch and then winning the fight comfortably worse than getting KTFO'd by z level boxer buster douglas ?
    Douglas was a perenial B-level contender during the late 80's, Tyson being KO'd by Douglass is the equivalent of Wlad being KO'd by Brewster.

    Now it's time to point to me the losses Tyson had to C & D level Heavyweights 15 years into his career.


    Originally posted by Wazaa..
    For the record.

    Sanders may have looked like a golfer, but he could fight and is one of the hardest punchers in hw history.
    Which is why the only top 10 heavyweight contender he ever beat in his career was Porcelain jaw Wlad.

    Originally posted by tennis-legend
    tyson overratted

    double loss to has been holyfield

    tyson was ****
    Holyfield, a future first ballot hall of famer.

    Where are Wlad & Vitali's victories over hall of famers?
    Last edited by Deal With It; 07-06-2011, 06:21 PM.

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    • Wazaa..
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      #52
      People that Wlad has fought that would beat a prime Tyson:

      Corrie Sanders by k.o
      Calvin Brock by k.o
      Sultan Ibragimov by u.d (too nimble and skilled for a crude tyson used to fighting bums)
      Lamon Brewster by k.o
      David Haye by k.o
      Hasim Rahman by decison. (rahman had too much pedigree for Tyson)
      Ross Purrity by k.o
      Chris Byrd by u.d (he would've made tyson look amateurs)(
      Ray Austin by k.o (see Lennox Lewis fight)
      davaryll Williamson by k.o (too much power and athletic ability for the cement footed Tyson)

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      • cupocity303
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        #53
        Originally posted by Player3
        A prime Wlad Klitschko gets knocked silly by journeyman Ross Purity & gets beat into a semi-******ed state by respective b & c level boxers Lamon Brewster & Corrie Sanders and i'm supposed to believe he can deal with the Physicality and punching power Mike Tyson for more than a round? Makes sense, hardy har har.
        You guys sure love to pinpoint a place in time when Tyson was at his absolute prime, whenever his losses are brought up.

        If that's the case, Wlad wasn't in his prime when he lost to those guys. He perfected his style and stamina after those losses, with the help of Steward.

        And he didn't get knocked silly, he ran out of stream in two out of the three fights. He dominated Brewster until he started fading on his own without ever getting hit.

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        • badass316
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          #54
          Originally posted by Player3
          Except for Lennox Lewis, which is the only A+ level fighter that he's fought.
          I suggest re-watching that fight. Watch it 100 times if you have to, because Lennox did not KO anyone.

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          • Forza
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            #55
            Tyson vs lennox lewis



            Vitali vs lennox lewis



            LMAO!!!!!

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              #56
              Originally posted by Player3

              Douglas was a perenial B-level contender during the late 80's, Tyson being KO'd by Douglass is the equivalent of Wlad being KO'd by Brewster.

              Now it's time to point to me the losses Tyson had to C & D level Heavyweights 15 years into his career.






              no , it's time to point to me where did i mention wladimir ? i was talking vitiali vs tyson
              vitali was never ko'd BY a bum

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              • Michael Hall
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                #57
                Originally posted by Wazaa..
                even espn did a piece recently after tyson got inducted into the Hof basically saying that he was all hype who lost any big fight he was ever in.

                The questioned whether or not he actually belonged in the hof and tbh, its a legitimate argument.

                Anyone who pulls up tysons resume will be hard pressed to find anything special. They all remember the hype, but when you look at the facts, he barely did shit.
                What's so special about Wlad's resume? Who has he beaten? Who has he beaten on the level of a Michael Spinks?

                The past-his-prime Larry Holmes that Mike Tyson destroyed would completely and laughably OWN the David Haye that Wlad just labored with.

                Who has Wlad fought?

                Past his prime Hasim Rahman? "Fast" Eddie Chambers? LOL! Samuel "I am de best" Peter? Who???

                Do you know who Tony "TNT" Tucker was? He'd eat Wlad's entire resume.

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                • Forza
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                  #58
                  wlad and vitali have fought every single person offered to them that was worth a fight

                  Tyson ducked most of the HW division

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by F l i c k e r
                    A prime Tyson, hell even the Tyson that showed up during the Ruddock fight would beat the K2 bros.

                    What I noticed with the Haye fight was that defense was created by that out stretched arm. Nothing more or less. Not to mention, they aren't very fast even for heavyweights. I think Tyson would weave his way right up in there and unleash that fury to the body and chin.

                    Even if they don't get knocked out, we would definitely see just how good the K2s are... borderline exposed maybe.

                    The only feasible way I can see the K2 bros beating Tyson would be by clinching and putting all that weight on him to tire him out.
                    Nonsense, Tyson was a front-runner. He either destroys you early or he gets broken down physically and mentally, and gets Ko'd.

                    Now maybe he has a proven track record of Ko'ing fighters early, but the Klitschko's have a proven track record of taking guys to the deep water and drowning them. Especially weak minded fighters and Tyson is one of those.

                    If compare track records, The Klitschko's have more of a shot of enforcing their style and TKO'ing Tyson late, after outboxing him for over half of a fight than Tyson landing something and knocking them out. Nothing is impossible of course, but 9 out 10 fights, The Klitscho's box him silly.

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                    • Michael Hall
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Wazaa..
                      slow your roll player. Holmes was almost 40 years old and fat when Tyson beat him.

                      Prime Holmes would've toyed with Tyson.
                      Prime Holmes ****s on both Klitshkos on back to back weekends!!

                      We all know Holmes was old as hell when he got knocked out by Mike. However, Holmes went on to still have a pretty sucessful boxing career.

                      Did you see his upset victory over a prime and undefeated Ray Mercer? "My name ain't Tommy Morrison"!

                      He handled Mercer in a more dominant fashion than even Wlad himself did. LOL! Yet you don't believe a prime IRON MIKE destroys the two GONZO brothers?? LMAO @ YOU!

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