Comments Thread For: Emanuel Steward: Haye Fight Did Not Go as Planned

[uoykcuf]

That is why you break a fighter down by cutting off the ring and going to the body. Something Wlad either couldn't or refused to do. Either way it reflects badly on him in my opinion.

LOL, you try being that big and going to the body on a puncher like Haye. The way Haye was fighting was to wait for Wlad to do such a thing so he could Capitalize and win by KO. But both of them fought very cautious because neither of them wanted to be KO'd.

[JAB5239]

LOL, you try being that big and going to the body on a puncher like Haye. The way Haye was fighting was to wait for Wlad to do such a thing so he could Capitalize and win by KO. But both of them fought very cautious because neither of them wanted to be KO'd.

Lol, a puncher like Haye? He threw hardly any punches and telegraphed the ones he did throw. Not much danger in that for a truly skilled fighter. So as I said, Wlad either couldn't or refused to break Haye down. If he refused than he went back on his word to punish Haye because he was not confident enough in his ability. Neither epitomizes greatness in my opinion.

[Toe Injury]

Why are people talking such BS? Haye was on the back foot but wasn't running. Most of the punches Wlad landed is because Haye was stood infront of Wlad wanting to counter.

"Running" is a figure of speech (unless youre Zab Judah).

Haye was moving backwards against a taller, defensive outfighter and landed like 30 punches the entire fight after threatening to decapitate him for 3 years. Pretty much what you'd call "running".

[Ringlife]

Steward always says that.

[Brassangel]

Lol, a puncher like Haye? He threw hardly any punches and telegraphed the ones he did throw. Not much danger in that for a truly skilled fighter. So as I said, Wlad either couldn't or refused to break Haye down. If he refused than he went back on his word to punish Haye because he was not confident enough in his ability. Neither epitomizes greatness in my opinion.

You are ******. A 6'7" fighter with a jack-hammer jab and long arms isn't going to hunch over, shorten his arms magically, and start ripping into the body of a much smaller target. In fact, he probably would have overcompensated and ended up fowling Haye.

Haye tried to stay away from Klitschko, that's why the fight was boring. His plan was to step back, hope that Wlad stepped forward, and then lunge in for some quick shots. It's the classic method for beating a taller fighter.

In the old days, a guy would cut off the ring and try to maul the body of the taller fighter, but they (the tall ones) have gotten smart and they simply tie a guy up. Now, the idea is to create space, for the longer man out of his comfort zone, and then fill the space with a punch to catch them off-guard.

Haye did nothing. He bounced around and threw wildly.

Klitschko didn't have to take a risk and he knew it. So he made Haye look like a clown.

Klitschko looks great because he basically shut out a guy who promised a knockout for 3 years.

[FrankieBruno]

The fact of the matter even Emanuel admits Wlad could have been more aggressive and thrown more punches.

Wlad did not throw an uppercut, a signiture punch which Emanual tells all his fighters to do. How many times did we see Lennox throw a uppercut and watch men drop like tree's....not sure why Wlad didnt even attempt this?

Wlad also could have thrown his left hook, Emanual was pleading in round 10 for him to do this.

Wlad played it safe to win on points, with a jab, fair enough....

[KiloTeague]

wlad won the fight on more thrown and landed,but still didnt throw or land enough,still didnt hurt haye,didnt impress or entertain,he wins but its really a lose-lose.

haye was poor with 1 d gameplan,and not enough guts to go for it,but still landed good combos on k bro,just wasted time not throwing and risking it to get to him.

Haye landed good combos? there were rounds where he only landed 1 punch. Haye was awful, haye got an F-. Wlad got a C. And when someone is moving backwards the whole fight, its hard to do anything great.

Case in point, the most explosive fighter in the Sport Manny Pac, had a boring fight with Shane Mosely cause Mosely did exactly what Haye did. Move backwards all fight long.

Listen, if you wanna say Wlad didnt do enough OK, but in that same sentence you must say Haye did 10 x less.

[Gumby McPokey]

Wladimir was the aggressor all fight, except for a couple of short bursts by Haye. When a guy who can punch goes extremely negative and stays out of range, you don't go charging in unless you want to get hammered. Wladimir cut him off and worked the jab, knowing that as long he kept doing this, Haye wouldn't be able to win rounds by being negative.

Any fighter who steps into a title fight and goes completely negative, refusing to engage when he's not even hurt, should be ashamed of himself. When such a fight is boring, the blame is on the guy who is avoiding and cowering, not the guy following him around and working the jab. Vitali is ready to mix it up with anyone, but even he can't do anything to make a fight exciting if the opponent runs from the early rounds like Kevin Johnson did.

Haye was a total disgrace. His absurd flopping and moaning to the referee, his repeated looping rabbit punches in the clinch, his standing out of range gesturing -- all just shameful. The only thing he deserves credit for is taking the few good punches that hit him (like the right in the 5th) and not going down.

Vitali should offer to fight the winner of Haye-Boytsov. Against Boytsov, Haye would have to fight like a man or his head would be ripped off.

[JAB5239]

You are ******. A 6'7" fighter with a jack-hammer jab and long arms isn't going to hunch over, shorten his arms magically, and start ripping into the body of a much smaller target. In fact, he probably would have overcompensated and ended up fowling Haye.

Haye tried to stay away from Klitschko, that's why the fight was boring. His plan was to step back, hope that Wlad stepped forward, and then lunge in for some quick shots. It's the classic method for beating a taller fighter.

In the old days, a guy would cut off the ring and try to maul the body of the taller fighter, but they (the tall ones) have gotten smart and they simply tie a guy up. Now, the idea is to create space, for the longer man out of his comfort zone, and then fill the space with a punch to catch them off-guard.

Haye did nothing. He bounced around and threw wildly.

Klitschko didn't have to take a risk and he knew it. So he made Haye look like a clown.

Klitschko looks great because he basically shut out a guy who promised a knockout for 3 years.

Lol, am I ******? I'll give you 10 to 1 odds on all your points that I can show AT LEAST 10 video's as proof of what Wlad couldn't do and being successful under the same circumstances. Sig the bet!! Wlad looked and fought like crap!

[hweightblogger]

Why are people talking such BS? Haye was on the back foot but wasn't running.

Yeah, he wasn't running, because he was busy FLYING. Flying down to the canvas.