Does hatton get close enuff to PBF....

[Hisoka]

I think Floyd Mayweather will beat Hatton. However, I don't think it will be anything like Floyd vs Gatti. I have a feeling this would be a tough fight where Floyd shows how amazing he truly is.

[InThisCorner]

Floyd respecting Tszyu, and being able to beat Tszyu are two different things. He had respect for him because of what he had accomplished as a fighter, and because he was a great fighter, that doesn't mean he couldn't beat him, or that because Hatton beat him that he can beat Floyd.

Like the saying goes (even though I hate it) styles make fights, and to compare Floyd to Tszyu is assinine, because they are two completely different fighters.

Kostya packed a punch when he could really plant, and that's the only time he really punched well was when planted. Floyd can hit moving forward, moving away, or planted, something KT was not so good at. It's fine to say that Hatton will win, but please, please stop saying so on the grounds that Hatton beat Kostya.

Fair enough. Point taken.

You have to admit though Floyd IS pricing himself out of fights. He definetly priced himself out against Winky AND Zab (I believe he thinks he can beat Zab rather easily though).

I view Hatton as a stronger, faster version of Castillo, who has much better footwork, and uses angles much more on the inside. As much as I usually disprove of the first fight of Floyd - Castillo, there's no discounting the fact that Castillo gave him trouble.

Floyd doesn't punch in high output, and if he were to fight Ricky he would have to be punching in LARGE numbers, something he really hasn't done before. We all know Floyd is conditioned, but is he conditioned enough for Hatton?

[Knicksman20]

Floyd respecting Tszyu, and being able to beat Tszyu are two different things. He had respect for him because of what he had accomplished as a fighter, and because he was a great fighter, that doesn't mean he couldn't beat him, or that because Hatton beat him that he can beat Floyd.

Like the saying goes (even though I hate it) styles make fights, and to compare Floyd to Tszyu is assinine, because they are two completely different fighters.

Kostya packed a punch when he could really plant, and that's the only time he really punched well was when planted. Floyd can hit moving forward, moving away, or planted, something KT was not so good at. It's fine to say that Hatton will win, but please, please stop saying so on the grounds that Hatton beat Kostya.

Gotta give you some good Karma for all of your posts in this topic.

[Hudson_Hawk]

If this fight ever happens, Hatton would have the advantage having been a natural 140 lber, but I see PBF as a SMART and SLEEK fighter. PBF's footworks and hand speed will surely get into the play and I can see Hatton being frustrated because he can't clinched and hold against PBF the way he fought KT.

PBF via UD.

[Kenny Blankenship]

Speed kills. It wins out every time. It can't be taught, it can't be learned. Either you have it or you don't.
Mayweather has it in spades. Add to it the great skill and work ethic he has and it spells out a convincing victory over Hatton.
Hatton can try all he wants to crowd PBF, but PBF has the advantage in the speed and quickness department, you can't smother what you can't catch, he'll slip and slide his way to the outside all night long all the while connecting with punches.
PBF wins this fight easily.

[BadMagick]

Fair enough. Point taken.

You have to admit though Floyd IS pricing himself out of fights. He definetly priced himself out against Winky AND Zab (I believe he thinks he can beat Zab rather easily though).

I view Hatton as a stronger, faster version of Castillo, who has much better footwork, and uses angles much more on the inside. As much as I usually disprove of the first fight of Floyd - Castillo, there's no discounting the fact that Castillo gave him trouble.

Floyd doesn't punch in high output, and if he were to fight Ricky he would have to be punching in LARGE numbers, something he really hasn't done before. We all know Floyd is conditioned, but is he conditioned enough for Hatton?

I agree with most of what you're saying. There are tons of possibilities in this fight. If Hatton can keep up the pressure on Mayweather, then yes, he has a very good shot at beating him.

It's just like the thought of someone's that Anorak posted today, they are taylor-made for each other. If you think of someone to beat Hatton, it's a guy like Floyd; however, if you think of a guy who can beat Floyd, it's a guy like Hatton.

It's true that Mayweather is pricing himself out. Now, is that because he really doesn't want the fight, or because he thinks he's worth that much? That's the question. While I would, personally, pay to see him fight anyone, not many people would. He's not a big draw, but guys like Zab are. The Winky fight... Winky isn't a draw either. He's probably the most boring guy in boxing to watch, really. (Unless you're a boxing purist, in which case you should love to see him fight. I'd like to note that I do, indeed like to see him fight, but that doesn't take anything away from the fact that he is not a draw.)

Castillo gave him some troubles, yes, and I haven't watched the second fight yet (I have it though), so I can't comment on that, but in the first fight he gave Mayweather a hell of a fight. Hatton is definitely faster than JLC, because JLC is a pretty slow guy, and he might be stronger, but I don't know that point can be proven. He probably has better footwork, and definitely has better angles.

Here's what I see, though. Floyd has learned how to fight a guy like that, even though Hatton might be a bit better at it, Floyd has experience fighting like that. Hatton doesn't have any experience fighting a guy like Mayweather, there aren't enough guys like him to have fought many of them.

Speed kills. It wins out every time. It can't be taught, it can't be learned. Either you have it or you don't.
Mayweather has it in spades. Add to it the great skill and work ethic he has and it spells out a convincing victory over Hatton.
Hatton can try all he wants to crowd PBF, but PBF has the advantage in the speed and quickness department, you can't smother what you can't catch, he'll slip and slide his way to the outside all night long all the while connecting with punches.
PBF wins this fight easily.

As stated previously, Hatton is like a faster JLC, and JLC gave Mayweather a hell of a fight. Hatton has a very, very good shot at winning this, should it happen, but I'd tend to agree that Floyd wins, due to his overwhelming speed.

[El Jesus]

We all have to remember that when Hatton goes to the body he's gotta worry about getting countered & popped not just once but 2-4 punches with PBF's handspeed. PBF can fight period, whether it's in the middle of the ring, on the ropes, or standing in the pocket. Hatton face is gonna get busted up because he's gonna get countered all night long. PBF isn't KT who's needs space to in order to throw his big right hand.

This is exactly what i was going to say, Hatton is also constantly open to be counter punched, your not gonna push floyd around, you rabbit punch, he rabbit punches, you low blow, he will low blow, you hold and hit, he will hold and hit.

Hatton leaves himself open too much and just like you said, he doesnt need space to be effective. PBF isnt Tszyu by any means.

[riz]

It's tough to call. I still haven't seen Floyd handle a top tier 140 pounder like Hatton handled Tszyu. I think Hatton's going to get close to Floyd, and rough him up a bit.

Hatton by UD12. That's my call IF they ever fight.

There's no denying Hatton's talent...he beat ZOO!!!!

i think if hatton wins, itll be by KO, mayewather to fast, if anything hatton catches him with some good punches and puts him down

[InThisCorner]

I agree with most of what you're saying. There are tons of possibilities in this fight. If Hatton can keep up the pressure on Mayweather, then yes, he has a very good shot at beating him.

It's just like the thought of someone's that Anorak posted today, they are taylor-made for each other. If you think of someone to beat Hatton, it's a guy like Floyd; however, if you think of a guy who can beat Floyd, it's a guy like Hatton.

It's true that Mayweather is pricing himself out. Now, is that because he really doesn't want the fight, or because he thinks he's worth that much? That's the question. While I would, personally, pay to see him fight anyone, not many people would. He's not a big draw, but guys like Zab are. The Winky fight... Winky isn't a draw either. He's probably the most boring guy in boxing to watch, really. (Unless you're a boxing purist, in which case you should love to see him fight. I'd like to note that I do, indeed like to see him fight, but that doesn't take anything away from the fact that he is not a draw.)

Castillo gave him some troubles, yes, and I haven't watched the second fight yet (I have it though), so I can't comment on that, but in the first fight he gave Mayweather a hell of a fight. Hatton is definitely faster than JLC, because JLC is a pretty slow guy, and he might be stronger, but I don't know that point can be proven. He probably has better footwork, and definitely has better angles.

Here's what I see, though. Floyd has learned how to fight a guy like that, even though Hatton might be a bit better at it, Floyd has experience fighting like that. Hatton doesn't have any experience fighting a guy like Mayweather, there aren't enough guys like him to have fought many of them.



As stated previously, Hatton is like a faster JLC, and JLC gave Mayweather a hell of a fight. Hatton has a very, very good shot at winning this, should it happen, but I'd tend to agree that Floyd wins, due to his overwhelming speed.

Why would Zab be a big draw? He hasn't beat anyone to be honest, except for Spinks, and Spinks isn't a really big name by any means. Now Floyd absolutely dismantled Gatti, and that generated TONS of PPV buys. People want to see Floyd fight now, they know what he can bring to the table and he can TKO guys.

Now, I have watched Mayweather - Castillo 2 about 3-4 times, and Castillo did well, but at most won 5 rounds, and that would only be if the judge were to be VERY generous. Mayweather was the truth at 135 but at 140 it still remains to be seen. Hatton took what KT had to have, and made the GREAT champion quit on his stool. Hatton comes to fight, and you gotta love him for that.

I got my fingers crossed for this fight to happen.

[InThisCorner]

This is exactly what i was going to say, Hatton is also constantly open to be counter punched, your not gonna push floyd around, you rabbit punch, he rabbit punches, you low blow, he will low blow, you hold and hit, he will hold and hit.

Hatton leaves himself open too much and just like you said, he doesnt need space to be effective. PBF isnt Tszyu by any means.

If you watch the Castillo 2 fight, Mayweather again did not have a high punch output. If Castillo had Hatton's footwork he would of caused HELL for Mayweather. Castillo only started cutting off the ring after round 6 or so.

Another thing I noticed was Mayweather doesn't throw big combo's once the fighter comes inside. He usually throws a left hook and gets out of there. Hatton's not going to allow you to do that. He's going to clinch or cut you off with a couple of body shots.

Hatton can take a punch, this isn't denied, but can Floyd take a relentless body attack? This still remains to be seen.