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  • #11
    Originally posted by Martin (Top Knowledge)
    The Tszyu fight was the most I've ever seen Hatton clinching. I think it's because he didn't want to leave anything to chance with Tszyu.

    He usually get's close, moves around and throws a body assault.
    Maybe. Whatever it was it made for boring boxing at times.

    For whoever said this fight would be like Gatti - Floyd, you really think Hatton's going to sit on the outside and try to box with Floyd? All Gatti did was keep low and try to jab Floyd's chest, Hatton doesn't fight like that, and he won't change his style for Floyd.

    Hatton has a vicious body attack. Floyd's going to slow down in the later rounds and Hatton will take advantage winning the later rounds, and some of the earlier ones.

    For Floyd to win this IMO, it's going to take more then pure skill, its going to take heart, and lot's of it.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by .::|ULTIMATE|::.
      I think this fight would look pretty close to Gatti - Floyd.
      NO way, I think its a pick-em fight with either Ricky using his natural strength advantage, relentless work rate and stamina to get to Floyd late (either winning by late stoppage or out hustling Floyd) through his body shots and pressure or Floyd being able to use his footwork and defensive skills to outbox Ricky for a decision. My mouth is drooling at the prospect at this fight.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by InThisCorner

        For Floyd to win this IMO, it's going to take more then pure skill, its going to take heart, and lot's of it.
        Yep and that can show how great he really is.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by InThisCorner
          Maybe. Whatever it was it made for boring boxing at times.

          For whoever said this fight would be like Gatti - Floyd, you really think Hatton's going to sit on the outside and try to box with Floyd? All Gatti did was keep low and try to jab Floyd's chest, Hatton doesn't fight like that, and he won't change his style for Floyd.

          Hatton has a vicious body attack. Floyd's going to slow down in the later rounds and Hatton will take advantage winning the later rounds, and some of the earlier ones.

          For Floyd to win this IMO, it's going to take more then pure skill, its going to take heart, and lot's of it.
          Yeah I didn't bother responding to the "Gatti vs Floyd = Hatton vs Floyd" comment. If Ultimate see's it that way then he just don't know enough about Hatton, or think that Gatti is more than what he is.

          I agree with you post 100%

          Floyd's gonna have to bring bag fulls of heart... Coz' boxing skills won't win him the fight on their own.

          I just think Hatton is too big and too strong for Mayweather, and will wear him down.

          I'm not too sure that deep down Floyd wants to fight Hatton... Mind you, Floyd does say some weird stuff in the press??? I'm not sure where that guy's coming from half the time.

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          • #15
            We all have to remember that when Hatton goes to the body he's gotta worry about getting countered & popped not just once but 2-4 punches with PBF's handspeed. PBF can fight period, whether it's in the middle of the ring, on the ropes, or standing in the pocket. Hatton face is gonna get busted up because he's gonna get countered all night long. PBF isn't KT who's needs space to in order to throw his big right hand.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by InThisCorner
              I thought zoo would outbox him, and it didn't work out. Zoo hit him with some pretty powerful shots, but Hatton just seemed to walk through them like they are nothing. Only thing that troubles me is how easily Floyd can move from the inside to the outside with his footwork. He is one of the quickest fighters ever, and his defence is just insane. His punch output is fairly low though, so that's why I'm picking Hatton.
              Zoo isn't as mobile as Floyd, though, which is a huge disadvantage when fighting Ricky. While Floyd hasn't fought anyone like Ricky, Ricky hasn't fought anyone like Floyd, either.

              Let's face it, there's only been a handful of boxers with that kind of swiftness and precision throughout the history of boxing, and Floyd seems to be one of them. He's incredibly quick on his feet, has great agility overall, has super-fast hands, and packs a decent punch with him.

              I pick Floyd to win by UD in this one, or a late TKO on cuts, perhaps.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Knicksman20
                We all have to remember that when Hatton goes to the body he's gotta worry about getting countered & popped not just once but 2-4 punches with PBF's handspeed. PBF can fight period, whether it's in the middle of the ring, on the ropes, or standing in the pocket. Hatton face is gonna get busted up because he's gonna get countered all night long. PBF isn't KT who's needs space to in order to throw his big right hand.
                That's exactly what I'm thinking. Floyd doesn't need to plant to throw shots like Kostya did. Granted, Kostya was a great fighter, but he was not like Floyd. People are comparing this fight to the wrong guy. Kostya is a hunt down and break with the right hand type of guy, and Floyd is the let them come to me and counter the **** out of him all night kind of guy.

                If it's a big ring, I have a very hard time seeing Hatton winning. He'll take a few rounds, but it should be a pretty lopsided fight for Mayweather. The only thing that would keep him from winning is to let his ego get to him and fight Hatton's game. If he dances around and pop-shots him, and catches him good on the way in, then he'll win.

                While yes, it's true that Mayweather is being overrated due to beating Gatti, it's also true that Hatton is being overrated from beating Kostya. The two fighters are impossible to compare (Kostya and Gatti), because Kostya was much better, but he's not a slick fighter like Mayweather is. And, while Mayweather is fairly green at 140, he still has a better resume than Hatton, which shows his skills a bit more (with wins over Castillo twice [maybe once depending on how you want to look at it], and once over Coralles, over Chop-Chop, etc). So, while still unproven at 140, he's an accomplished fighter, and a proven fighter.

                I honestly don't see Hatton winning this easily, if at all. To me, it'd be more Mayweather winning easily than Hatton, though that's not really all that likely either. If it happens, it'll be one of the best fights of recent memory, that's for sure.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Knicksman20
                  If they ever fight (which I'm doubtful) Hatton will be exposed as just an slightly above average fighter. In my opinion Hatton isn't better than JLC & I see him getting schooled. Hatton has had 1 fight at the top level so I'm not sold on him till he beats either Cotto or Vivian Harris and he could lose to either fighter.
                  great post.

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                  • #19
                    Yeah, I agree with Zoo not being as mobile as Floyd, but he definetly does not pack a punch like Zoo does. Floyd himself said he respected Zoo as a fighter, and Ricky beat him. That says alot on why Floyd is pricing him out of all the big fights.

                    IMO people are just underating Hatton and portraying him as an unskilled brawler with strength advantage. This is not the case, he uses angles inside, and is quick, with awesome footwork.

                    I think Floyd's getting to the point of his career where he's not nearly as hungry as he used to be. He wants big fights, but if the guy won't meet his demands...then piss on him he just wont fight him.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by InThisCorner
                      Yeah, I agree with Zoo not being as mobile as Floyd, but he definetly does not pack a punch like Zoo does. Floyd himself said he respected Zoo as a fighter, and Ricky beat him. That says alot on why Floyd is pricing him out of all the big fights.

                      IMO people are just underating Hatton and portraying him as an unskilled brawler with strength advantage. This is not the case, he uses angles inside, and is quick, with awesome footwork.

                      I think Floyd's getting to the point of his career where he's not nearly as hungry as he used to be. He wants big fights, but if the guy won't meet his demands...then piss on him he just wont fight him.
                      Floyd respecting Tszyu, and being able to beat Tszyu are two different things. He had respect for him because of what he had accomplished as a fighter, and because he was a great fighter, that doesn't mean he couldn't beat him, or that because Hatton beat him that he can beat Floyd.

                      Like the saying goes (even though I hate it) styles make fights, and to compare Floyd to Tszyu is assinine, because they are two completely different fighters.

                      Kostya packed a punch when he could really plant, and that's the only time he really punched well was when planted. Floyd can hit moving forward, moving away, or planted, something KT was not so good at. It's fine to say that Hatton will win, but please, please stop saying so on the grounds that Hatton beat Kostya.

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